What is the one option or upgrade you said no to when buying your Jeep that you now regret not getting? How many Jeep related Facebook Groups are you following? That first day you take the doors and top off for the season, what is the first song you blast from the radio?
Month: October 2023
Show # 197 Size matters (kinda)
This Episode we talk about why Jeep wont make any small jeeps like the TJ. Its all because of the CAFE standards. Kevin then chats about how to fix and diagnose broken wires. Enjoy the show!!
CentreSteer #127 – Greg Shondel
Episode 916 – Cherokee Turns 49!
SEMA 2023
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Jeep Talk Show Team at SEMA 2023
[Las Vegas, Oct 29th] – The highly regarded Jeep Talk Show team is thrilled to announce their presence at SEMA 2023, the world’s premier automotive specialty products trade event. With their passion for all things Jeep, the team is gearing up for an exciting and eventful event.
SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association) has long been the stage for the automotive industry’s most innovative and dynamic personalities. The Jeep Talk Show’s participation in SEMA 2023 is a testament to the show’s influence and importance in the Jeep community.
Visitors to SEMA 2023 can expect to see the Jeep Talk Show team swarming the event, meeting and greeting attendees and exhibitors alike. The team will be on hand to provide valuable insights, conduct live interviews with industry experts, and engage with fellow Jeep enthusiasts.
For many Jeep aficionados, the Jeep Talk Show has become a go-to source for news, tips, and insights about their beloved vehicles. The team’s participation at SEMA 2023 promises to be a memorable experience for fans and industry insiders alike.
“I’m excited about the opportunity to connect with our amazing listeners and fellow Jeep lovers at SEMA 2023,” says Chris McMahon, a prominent member of the Jeep Talk Show team. “This event is a celebration of all things automotive and off-road, and we can’t wait to be a part of it.”
The Jeep Talk Show team will be throughout SEMA 2023. Visitors can look forward to exclusive giveaways, interactive conversations, and a chance to meet the voices behind the show.
For more information about the Jeep Talk Show team’s presence at SEMA 2023, visit jeeptalkshow.com or follow along on our instagram channel, instagram.com/jeeptalkshow.
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Episode 914 – Marvin Stammel – Flex, Rocks & Rollovers
Marvin is the owner and founder of the YouTube Channel Flex, Rocks and Rollovers. He’s the creator of the popular YouTube series 24 Hell and Back Trail Challenge and Reign of Rocks. He’s been wheeling since he was kid. He’s originally from Germany where he wheeled up until he was 21 years old and then moved to the USA where he continued his passion. He started his first business in the off road industry shortly after and now over 12 years later he he’s one of the most popular off road content creators in the world.
Ep 290: Radio Chatter Game
Bethany and Paul from @radiochattergame join us to talk about how they came up with this really fun and engaging game that helps people get to know each other better on any adventure. Then, Cody's new operating system crashes the show and the guys make fun of him for using #linux operating systems.
Episode 913 – New to 4×4
Did I Break the Law?
Your modern-day Jeep, JL/JT most likely has the ability to use Android Auto.
Warning, it is dangerous to drive and watch videos on your vehicle screen. I’m 99.9999% certain it is illegal in your state. DON’T DO IT! Funny how you can do a bunch of other stuff that requires you to look at that screen while driving though.
What is Android Auto? Well, it lets you Connect your phone to your car display—your Android apps show up onscreen, just like that. Tap to get driving directions or talk to send a text. Even call your mom, hands-free. Android Auto is made to help you focus on the road. And have fun along the way. Just connect and go.
At least that is what the android.com/auto says.
The Android Auto gods “little “G” only allow certain apps from your smartphone to be run on your UConnect system. Not surprisingly YouTube, or any phone app that plays video, isn’t allowed. Who the hell do they think they are?!?!?!
To be honest I was looking for a way to run Trails Off-road on my UConnect but found this, the ability to play YouTube on my Jeep’s infotainment system!
The trick is to download and install AAAD. It’s not on your Google Play store! You need to go to a GitHub website with your phone and download and install it from there.
I’m not going to describe all the steps, that’s what YouTube installation videos are for.
The only “gotcha” I had was making sure permissions were set so that I could install it.
Once you have AAAD installed you will be allowed to download one of several apps that do the actual part of running on your UConnect screen.
I selected CarStream.
Plugging a USB cable from the “media jack” center console to my Android smartphone enables Android Play, and after selecting it I can click on the app “CarStream”.
Now you can watch YouTube videos from a web-browser type of interface. You can make the video full-screen and it is very nice and easy to watch.
I think this would be great to use while you’re stationary and have time to kill and be entertained. Nothing keeps you from watching while driving, except your good sense. I’m waiting to hear that someone with a manual transmission is shifting gears, eating a hamburger, steering with their knee watching Netflix having an accident. Cops will check to see if you were texting and find nothing…. If they only knew, it was so much worse!
Oh, and this isn’t a challenge! Seriously, don’t watch videos while you are driving. Hmmm, I wonder if you can legally watch videos while off-road? This would open up a whole new world of “How-to” wheel videos!
What do you think? Is this something you would use? What will it mean if your kids, of driving age, see you doing this and decide to install it on their phones? Or your spouse?
https://github.com/shmykelsa/AAAD
Best Doomsday Vehicles
Top 5 Rides For Escaping The Apocalypse
Number 5, Chevrolet Silverado or Express
“Chevy makes a solid truck, there’s no doubt about it, and this one was built specifically for unforeseen emergencies. Although we can’t say that the zombie outbreak was ‘unforeseen,’ we can certainly classify it as an emergency. The fully capable 4×4 features a 5.3 liter EcoTec3 V8 engine with plenty of power (355 ponies to be exact) along with lower body armor, raised suspension, solar power pack, generator, military First Aid Kit, gas masks, a crate of food with Top Ramen and Twinkies (your new favorite food groups in this post-apocalyptic world), and a whole lot more.”
Number 4, Mercedes Benz Unimog
“If you are looking for foolproof security with stunning design, Mercedes-Benz G-Class might be the best option for you. It comes with a thrilling 4-liter twin-turbo V8 diesel engine with 412 hp. In the event of the apocalypse, nothing like powerful vehicles traversing mud, steep slopes, and water can stop it. This vehicle has many safety features like a multi-function suspension steering wheel, automatic climate control, and passenger airbags. Some other features like the anti-lock braking system and run-flat tires make it a brilliant off-road runner,” adds Armormax.
Number 3, Subaru Outback
If man buns survive after doomsday, it’s a world I don’t want to be part of anyway…
Subaru makes the cut for expert recommendations for doomsday vehicles. If moms trust them with their children, of course, they will be safe enough to get you out of harm’s way. “Subaru makes a whole lot of money selling a ton of ugly cars. No worries though, as they are known to stand up to a beating. Decent gas mileage means you can go where you need to get when the gas stations are out of power. The Outback doesn’t offer any more performance over the regular Impreza, but it does have more ground clearance and a cool off-road look. Like an AMC Eagle, except it runs. Giant swarms of locusts? Just turn on the wipers, hit the lights, and gas it,” shares Zero to 60 Times.
Number 2, Hummer
You have to figure that after any doomsday even hummers are going to have to be a reality. I mean 20 rounds of ammo is 20 rounds of ammo, right?
If you want to survive doomsday, you have to drive a Hummer. Well, at least, that is what most experts believe. “If nothing else, you automatically get the title of general when you roll up to the survival camp in this,” says Hot Cars. “The 2009 H2 gets 393 horsepower with a V8 and has a nine-speed automatic. It’s built like a Jeep with modes like 4-high, 4-high lock, and 4-low lock, letting you lock out the rear differential to bust out of tough situations and crawl up and down the steepest of hills. The H2 might not be as reliable but the GM platform permits lots of domestic repairs any time you find an abandoned Tahoe. The windows don’t allow for as much visibility but that’s a good thing! There’s less glass space to get broken, and more metal plating to protect you.”
Well, what do you think the number 1 best Doomsday vehicle is, according to experts?
Riven? The yet-to-be-released CyberTruck? Will there be electricity after doomsday?
Yes, I hear you screaming if not orally, in your head… JEEP! Well, sir, you are correct.
The Number 1 best doomsday vehicle is a Jeep Wrangler!
The experts didn’t say what model of Wrangler is the best but I think we all know it’s the TJ, right? Actually, they probably think the JL/JLU, I mean they’re not Jeep experts.
It’s not about being paranoid; it’s about being prepared. “During the apocalypse, it becomes crucial most of the time to go off-track for your safety,” writes Armormax. “Therefore, you should consider a vehicle that is perfectly suitable for off-road adventures. The second important thing to consider is that the vehicle should have enough space to carry your gear. Because you need to carry plenty of items for survival like food, weapons, first-aid kit, clothes, etc. The Jeep Wrangler is an incredible SUV that fulfills all your needs. It can crawl up anywhere due to its excellent off-road capabilities and robust front and rear axles. Much advanced safety features further to make it safe. For example, it has a tire-fill alert system, forward-facing camera, and run-flat tires. Above all, its exterior is exceptionally strong and can protect its occupants from any kind of attack. All these characteristics make it one of the finest options for the apocalypse.”
These Jeep Wranglers will become your insurance policy for the unexpected. “The Wranglers are the highest and most commonly lifted vehicles you can get for under 200 Benjamins. The height advantage means you can crawl over bad roads or leave the streets altogether while Hyundais are left to the flames or aliens. A platform made for customizing allows you to easily loot parts off other cars or prepare the improvements ahead of time at little cost or effort. The front bumper, unlike most cars, is designed to repeatedly take the full force of the car as you may have seen in videos where one’s Jeep sits undamaged and some poor, little sedan lays nearby in mangles,” notes Hot Cars.
Jeep it’s a strange name!
Legend has it that the Jeep name was adapted from “GP,” a common abbreviation that military members used for “General Purpose.” The slang term had been used decades before, too, in World War I. A military dictionary called Words of the Fighting Forces by Clinton A. Sanders included “jeep” in 1942—little “j”—and included in the definition was “any small plane, helicopter, or gadget.” So while it was previously a broad category that all types of machines fell into, the 4×4 buggies quickly claimed it for themselves upon introduction.
That’s the most widely accepted origin story, but even Jeep will tell you it’s not entirely sure. There was a character in the Popeye cartoon named “Eugene the Jeep” and it could have been lifted from there. It seems a little less likely, but it’s worth considering at the very least.
Willys picked up on the name’s popularity and was awarded the Jeep trademark on June 13, 1950, after a seven-year legal fight. Everyone was referring to the Willys MB by that name already, but that’s also what they called Bantam and Ford’s machines. Gaining the exclusive rights to the moniker was key for marketing purposes and all these years later, Jeep gives a nod to Willys with Wrangler and Gladiator trims dawning the name.
Like most icons, it doesn’t matter where the name came from. Jeep is a name that means so many things to so many people, and really that’s what is important.
New to 4×4
Like most people, I started driving when I was 16. I had a car, thanks to my parents. A 1973 Pontiac Ventura. It had a straight 6 and a 3-speed manual transmission. AM radio and AC! The AC was controlled by rolling down the windows, or breaking open the triangle side vent!
I put 2,000 miles on that car in the first two weeks of ownership.
I met twin brothers just a few miles away from my parent’s house over CB. One twin brother had been given his Dad’s 72 Chevy pickup. I modified my car, and Gary modified his truck. I think, technically, the truck belonged to both brothers, but Gary was the one who drove it 90% of the time.
It was a 2 wheel drive truck, but Gary lifted the front end so it would sit level with the rear, and put on off-road style tires front and rear. The rear tires were much more aggressive.
Naturally, this made me want a truck. Fast forward several years and I eventually got my own 1980 Chevy Scottsdale LWB truck. It had a V8 in it. I leveled it out, like Gary did him, and put aggressive tires on it, but sadly it was a 2 wheel drive.
I drove that for a couple of years, but after getting a better job I was able to think about buying a NEW truck, and naturally, I wanted a REAL 4-wheel drive truck. I drove from Baytown to La Porte to visit a Chevy dealership. I found a 1983, brand new, Chevy Silverado, midnight blue, short wheelbase, 4×4! It didn’t have a radio in it, which was perfect as I didn’t want one of those crappy factory radios that were wildly expensive! As I recall it was $10,500!
More about this first 4×4 adventure on our next Jeep Talk Show flagship episode!
What was your first 4-wheel drive?
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Episode 912 – Have You Jeep Jamboree’d?
The Round Table episode is a weekly episode with Jeepers from all over joining in the conversation through a Zoom meeting. You can join just go to https://jeeptalkshow.com/contact to find out how!
Have you done a Jeep Jamboree USA? If so, would you do it again? If you could take your Jeep anywhere outside the US to wheel, where would it be? Who is your go to YouTube certified mechanic for upgrades, repairs, or maintenance issues?
Jamborees and Jeepin’ Around the World
Welcome to the Jeep Talk show roundtable. On tonight’s episode, we’ll be asking you
Speaker A: One of my big ones is, I’ll be honest with you, is, uh, Quadratech.
Tony: Yeah, good videos.
Speaker A: Whenever you do a Google search, they’re the first ones that pop up. I love their videos. Does a great job. He doesn’t talk down, he doesn’t speed through. Very it’s very good videos. Now the converse to that is I watch their videos, then I go over to Northridge and I buy the stuff there because of pricing. But, um, I got to tell you, um, I like Larry’s videos as well.
Tony: Hi, I’m Tony, and welcome to all of you new listeners and of course, our regulars. Welcome to the Jeep Talk show roundtable. I’m your host. I’m excited to have you here for this special gathering of passionate Jeep enthusiasts. On tonight’s episode, we’ll be asking you, have you done Jeep Jamboree USA? And if so, would you do it again? If you could take your Jeep anywhere outside the US. The wheel, where would it be? Who is your go to YouTube certified mechanic for upgrades, repairs, and maintenance issues. Oh, and what is your favorite TV show? Jeep. You know that last one? Uh, we never seem to get to the last question there, so, uh, hopefully we’ll, uh, be able to make it. But I think a good conversation is always more important than getting through the questions.
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Speaker C: Are you ready?
Tony: It’s time for the Jeep talk show with hosts Tony, Josh, Wendy and Chuck. You know, whether you’re a diehard Jeep enthusiast or just starting to explore the world of off roading, we’re thrilled to have you as part of this discussion. So buckle up and get ready for an exciting and informative conversation about all things Jeep. Please consider joining the discussion by being part of our weekly Zoom meeting. It’s every Tuesday at 07:30 p.m.. Just go to Jeeptalkshow.com Contact to find out how to join. Hey, uh, so I’ll tell you real quick, I’ll make this very quick and hopefully painless. Have you heard about our Patreon? We are trying to get 100 Patreon subscribers. All you have to do is go to that same spot, Jeeptalkshow.com Contact, and you will see that for as little as $5, you can get supported starting the show. You love the Jeep talk show. Oh, and by the way, uh, speaking of, uh, making money, uh, you can advertise on the show. Maybe you’ve got a business, maybe, uh, uh, you’ve got another podcast out there that you would like to get the word out about your podcast. Uh, you can sponsor, uh, the Roundtable or our interview episodes, or be one of three advertisers on our two weekly flagship episodes. Just give us a call. Find out how to contact us through that same place I always tell you to go. Jeeptalkshow.com Contact. Our rates aren’t affordable. They’re just damn right, cheap. Also, too, I want to mention we’re doing a little more on YouTube. Uh, I’ve been, uh, doing interviews and, uh, for the interviewees that are shooting me video during those, uh, interviews. I’ve been recording that and doing a little editing of, uh, those interviews and putting them up on YouTube and actually through some artificial intelligence trickery. We have all kinds of great things that we can add to those YouTube videos now chapters. So you can jump around if you don’t want to listen to the or watch the entire interview, but, uh, they’re very good. And also, too, it’s just the interview. So if you really enjoy the interview, uh, and, uh, not so much the part that’s wrapped around it on the audio version now, you can, uh, uh, just watch it on YouTube. And uh, also too, it might be a good way for you to introduce other people to the Jeep talk show.
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Tony: All right, so, uh, to our roundtable meeting attendees, please introduce yourself with your name and location the first time you speak tonight. This helps the listener know your voice when you speak. All right, my favorite part. Hello, zoom people.
Speaker D: Howdy.
Tony: Howdy. All right, thank you to everybody that showed up here tonight. It’s great to see a nice long list of names. We’ve got a couple of, uh, uh, I think most everybody is a return individual here. Wendy, have you been here on our show before?
Speaker E: No, this is actually my first one.
Tony: Welcome. I thought so, but I didn’t want to embarrass myself by welcoming you here for the first time.
Speaker E: Well, thank you very much.
Chip asks Bill if he would do another Jeep Jamboree
Tony: Uh, all right, here we go. Have you done? A Jeep Jamboree USA. And if so, would you do it again?
Speaker D: You want me to kick it off? This is Chip from Illinois.
Tony: Sure.
Speaker D: I’ve done four of the Jamborees and trail guided it, uh, two of them. And so, yes, I would definitely do it again. Um, Bill signed up to trail guide for next year and plan on doing another one. We haven’t determined which one yet. The list just came out about two weeks ago. Of all the 2024 jamborees as well as the 2024 schedule for Jeep Adventure Academy, which is affiliated.
Tony: Did you have any problem getting signed up on those? Because I hear they fill up really quick.
Speaker D: So yes. Um, before I became a trail guide, trail guides get a little preferential treatment so I can get signed up easier since I’m involved with the organization. But, um, basically it’s like a rock concert. They’re going to give you a time. So let’s say December 4 at noon, you sign up to go to the Rubicon. By twelve two, it’s probably going to be full, so you better be on the website ready to hit yes at noon if that’s the sign up.
Tony: Wow, what a wonderful business they have there.
Speaker D: Well, probably 90% of them sell out like that. There’s probably 10% maybe in some of the more remote places that you might have a few days or maybe a week. Um, and then they do, do a waitlist so you can go on the waitlist. And there’s a good chance that a lot of people I went waitlisted for a couple of events for one year and they contacted me. But the thing is when they contact you and say there’s an opening on the waitlist, they’ve contacted everybody. So once again, you better jump on it quickly. But uh, yeah, Jeep Jamboree is pretty good, um, as far as getting booked, uh, up. Um, that’s why when people talk about, know if we’re on the show and we talk about it next spring that somebody wants to do one next summer, you might be able to get into one if there was a cancellation by somebody or if it was one of the more remote ones. But the real popular ones, Moab, Rubicon, all those just they sell out quick. This year they also added some other international ones. They’re going over to uh, Iceland four different times and doing some snowwheeling. Um, I haven’t seen any of the prices on that yet, but I’m sure that’s not going to be cheap. But they’re doing some other international ones. Um, so they’re changing their schedule around from what it has been the last few years.
Tony: Is uh, Pierce usually there or is he not normally at those events?
Speaker D: So Pierce comes to the special ones. Um, so I’ve never done the moab jamboree or the rubicon jamboree. Pierce has it’s a business, it’s an organization. So they’ve got people that represent the Jeep Jamboree at every event. Of course, usually it’s two or three people that are there from Jamboree and then they have a local person that’s called the local coordinator for that show and then he arranges all the trail guides. And so typically you might have eight groups with so there’d be maybe 24 trail guides that are lined up locally. Most of them are local that know the trails. Um, but the coordinator is usually fairly local. And then someone from Jamboree comes Pierce. I’ve only met Pierce once in person. He came to the 10th anniversary at the Badlands in Indiana.
Tony: Uh, yeah, I was just curious. I didn’t know if he made it out to all of them or not. I’ve never been to one of the events and uh, I’ve spoken to him a couple of times here on the show. I never met him in person, but wasn’t uh, sure uh, how much he got out there on those. Uh, yeah, just curious.
Chip, which one do you like better, Jeep Jamboree or USA
Speaker F: Rick from Arkansas, quick question chip, is, uh, the Jeepers Jamboree there on the group Con? Is that part of the same Jamboree program?
Speaker D: Not at all. Not at all. So the Jeep Jamboree USA is the organization that does Jeep Jamboree that everybody thinks about for the most part. Nationally. Jeepers jamboree is only in the rubicon. And I don’t even know, I’d have to go back and look. They uh, both argue back and forth. They started up about the same time, but Jeepers Jamboree claims to be the original. Jeepers Jamboree is something that’s always they’ve got two weeks of that. Right. They do a one week, I think that’s a more, uh, family oriented run, and then they do another week on another trip that is more of an adult oriented run. But it’s different, but similar, but totally different organization.
Tony: Yeah, it’s enough to confuse me. Uh, you’ve done both. Uh, Chip, which one do you like better?
Speaker D: I have not done the jeepers jamboree.
Tony: Oh, I thought you had.
Speaker D: No, that was the one that Chuck had signed up for. My nephew did it, but we couldn’t get it worked in, so I haven’t done the Jeepers. I’ve met them, um, they had a booth, might have been at Smoky Mountain jeep Invasion. No, they had his booth out at, uh, him, I saw him in April when we were out there.
Tony: Okay.
Speaker D: So I stopped in their booth. They were one of the booths inside at Moab and I sat and visited with them quite a while. Really nice guys. I think it’d be a great trip. Just, um, don’t know a whole lot about it. Um, but everything they described, it was something I’d want to do.
Speaker F: Yeah, the videos and stuff I’ve seen looks like a good time.
Speaker D: Well, the best part about doing either Jeepers Jamboree or Jeep Jamboree USA, especially with all the locations, so if you want to go somewhere else other than Rubicon, um, Jeep Jamboree USA. But is the support group that’s there. Right. I mean, you could go to a park if it’s in a park, you could go to a park and just pay the daily fee and hopefully have a group of friends you can go with. But just like when you do the Jeep Talk show, uh, Tony The Outings, we’re not going to leave somebody stranded on a trail. Um, and so if somebody breaks or anything, they’re going to make sure you get off the trail. Probably help you repair the Jeep that night and get you back on the trail the next day. Um, so there’s just a lot of support and there’s a lot of pre work too, where they know the trails, they know the obstacles, and then when you sign up, they break the Jeeps into different groups. So you have more of a beginner or entry level all the way up to Extreme, where guys might be on forty s and Dana sixty S. And so you inspect the vehicle to see what it’s capable of. You also talk to the owner or the driver to find out their level of experience and try to find a balance there where they’re not on a trail that is above the ability of their vehicle or their experience.
Tony: Right. Yeah. Speaking of the Jeep Talk show Texas event that we had last June, uh, we got lucky. Uh, Tod from, uh, offroading 101 com came, uh, out and we actually had three groups that year and Todd was uh, leading the more advanced group. Uh, and uh, so that was kind of cool that uh, Todd was there and of uh, course he had his folks, uh, out there, the trainers that work with him. So they were taking people on the more advanced trails at Hidden Falls and uh, helping them through them. It was kind of getting like an offroading 101, uh, free course uh, when people came to the event. So that was really neat. Anybody else done the Jeep jamboree?
Speaker E: Yeah, this is Wendy from Kansas and I actually did one of the add ons that they added last year, uh, at S’more, Southern Missouri Off Road Ranch, the pirate one. And um, Pierce was actually at that one.
Tony: Cool.
Speaker E: What’s?
Speaker D: Ah, that was it. That the pirate? Yeah, it was.
Tony: Everybody got a parrot. Yeah, I’ve heard uh, some fancy things.
Speaker E: Going on at those places me.
Tony: How so?
Speaker E: Yeah, well, first of all, it was raining and it was really cold. I think it was late October, it might even been November. Um, and I remember when I came up and they ask you what level you want to go on? And I said, well I normally do the medium stuff, uh, sometimes some harder trails, and I’d like to do some of the harder ones today. People weren’t really gathered around except to huddle for warmth and with all the rain. So then when it came time to get in and they had all the different colors up so you knew which line to get into. And I pulled up to my line and I noticed it’s these like super built. Like I’ve got thirty seven S and a three and a half inch game changer I wheel. But these were like the big boys. Forty s and just completely built. And I know that part because I wheel it quite often and it was raining, so it’s really muddy, which makes it a lot worse. And I looked at them, I said um, isn’t this the extreme group? And they’re like, yeah. I’m like, no, that’s not where I wanted to be. I uh, need to step that down a couple of there boys. And as we were going through the trail doing ours, which the one I got into was exactly where I wanted to be, we went by the extreme group. Three of them were over on their sides and I was like, glad I didn’t go in, that it was bad.
Tony: They were just tired and resting.
Speaker D: Yeah, I was resting.
Speaker E: Two of them were gladiators.
Speaker D: That would be a uh, uh, suggestion that I give to anybody when they sign up. I do the beginner group. We do 90% of the trails that everybody else does. It’s just we don’t go on the ones that you’re likely to flip over or break an axle or some of those things. The moderate groups step it up a little bit. But when you go to the extreme group, those guys, that group usually isn’t happy until somebody breaks something.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker E: And I’m not really sure how I got into that group. That was what was kind of weird.
Jamboree organizers need to make sure vetting process is thorough
Speaker E: And um, there really wasn’t any description given as to how they rate their groups and I did submit that as suggestion.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker D: So Jeff’s the coordinator there. It’s hard because you’ll get in with a group and they’ll look at your vehicle in thirty seven s, forty s, your Jeep would have been capable probably if you want to pound it. But the jamboree goes from being really easy to being more moderate to the extreme group. And most of the time those extreme group guys, they want to meet everybody’s expectation. And so when you’ve got an extreme Jeep and you want to do extreme driving, they’ll take you out and usually that group’s smaller and they’re going to have some pretty build up rigs, no buggies or anything like that, but it’s still a Jeep, but it can be pretty extreme. Um, but the problem you get into is somebody just put on 35s or 37s, they lifted their Jeep three or four inches, they may have a rubicon, so they got lockers and they’re like, well my Jeep is capable, but maybe they’ve only been off road twice. But they want to go to the above moderate level. And I’m m sitting there going, guys, do the moderate. You’ll be happier than if you go way beyond that because you have to.
Tony: Get some time under the belt there and get a good feel for what you’re doing. But there’s going to be those people, I understand why they would have the extreme group, uh, because there are going to be people that aren’t going to be happy going out and doing the moderate trails. They’ve done a lot of that already and they want something that’s more challenging.
Speaker E: I totally agree.
Tony: Yeah. But you’re right. They need to make sure that the vetting process, the questions are not only asked but listened to what the responses are so they can make sure they get people in the right group. Uh, I would hate breaking something because I was put in the wrong group.
Speaker D: They’re pretty accommodated. They’ll move you like they moved Wendy. They’ll move you if you’re nervous that day or if you do that day on day one and you’re in over your head a little bit, they’ll move you down or the other way. If you’re in a moderate group and you want a more aggressive they’ll move you up oftentimes they’ll try to accommodate.
Tony: That and you have to make sure that you’re confident enough to say, no, I’m not doing this. Uh, you have the ability to say no. You don’t want to feel like you’re in a situation where you have to do it. You should go with what you feel comfortable doing. Right.
Speaker E: Which is exactly what I did and I was glad I did.
Chip: Sometimes people overestimate their vehicle or their skills
Speaker C: Mhm is this is Roger from wisconsin. Chip, I was just kind of curious. I mean, if a guy was wanting to push himself, wouldn’t that be the best time to do I mean, because you’re looking know, trail guides that know the know you’re looking at experienced trail to. If you are going to attempt to push yourself, I would think that would be a good time to try.
Speaker D: You’re usually that’s correct, mhm.
Speaker E: But I will tell you that our trail guides were not from that area. They were from illinois and had never been to the park.
Tony: Oh, no.
Speaker E: That’s why I said it was just flatlanders.
Speaker D: So the guys that were down there were probably the same guys that were up at ours. In the extreme group, when you get to the extreme level, if you go to the hardest, most difficult level, oftentimes those guys expect you’ve had enough seat time and experience that they’re not spotting you through as much as you’d think they would because you’re watching the jeep in front of you and see what they do. But they think you’ve already got enough experience if you’re in the extreme group, that you can pick your own lines based on your own experience on what your vehicle is capable of, and that’s where you can get into trouble by overestimating your vehicle or your skills and signing up for a too advanced group. And I try to caution people on that all the time, and usually everybody listens. Um, it is what it is. Right.
Tony: I haven’t been to all the trails, but I would assume that there’s always a bypass available. So if you find yourself not always, no. Can you get into a situation where you have to back up?
Speaker E: Yeah.
Speaker D: This potential you could have to turn around and go back out, they’ll probably end up winching you up the obstacle so it’s not as spread out. I haven’t been to your texas event, but I’ve watched some of the videos and seen some of the footage, and there’s a lot of bypasses. Yes, there’s some bypasses, but I would guess that over 50% of the time, there’s no bypass to the obstacle. When you’re on these trails in the woods like they are, there may not be a bypass. You’re going to either have to do the obstacle, get wenched, or strapped up and over it. And usually it’s not that treacherous. It’s just a waterfall or a stairstep or a series of rocks that your jeep isn’t capable of getting through for whatever reason.
Tony: Right.
Speaker G: And a lot of times, though, it’s also I mean, it’s like we’ve been saying, jeeps tend to be more capable than the drivers half the time. So I was just having this conversation with one of my admins that I will take her on blue trails all she wants. I’ll take you, um, on black trails. Just because your jeep is capable does not mean that the driver is capable. I know that even with being behind the seat and know, up until I moved out here a year ago, I was wheeling four days a know and commuting back and forth from Long Island. My Jeep is still way more capable than you know. Wendy had taught me the term gas it and smash it. Right? Is that one gas and smash it? Gas and smash. So for me, I’m not good at that. I’ve learned to wheel with finesse through, uh, northeast offroad Adventures. They taught you, don’t spin your wheels, and I have a lighter touch on it. So part of my thing for not doing blacks as often is that, uh, I’m not comfortable. So I will do greens and go overlanding and do some blues all day long. But also with Girls play off road. We start people as newbies and I gradually bring them up, uh, as they’re comfortable. When you wheel with someone enough times, you know, when you’re ready to where you can push them. But, uh, as, ah, someone who’s guiding regularly, I’ve had people come out, oh, let’s go do blacks. I put them on a blue. You need a spotter. I am not taking you on a black. People think that they could do a lot a lot of people think that they could do a lot more than they’re capable of. And for me, as a guide and a spotter, that’s really not fun, and for them, it’s not really that much fun. Um, and I think Chip will agree, as a guide, it’s kind of important. And I know Wendy’s big on this. It’s, uh, so important to evaluate who’s in your group and have those conversations. Let’s take a look. Tell me about your jeep. More importantly, tell me about your seat time, because those guys that do have those built Jeeps, oh, I could do blacks. I just did one tons and 40s.
Tony: That’s great.
Speaker G: You don’t know how to wheel, you don’t know how to hit a rock the right way. You’ve now screwed up everyone’s entire day.
Tony: Well, I tell you what, once you start going and you’re at a 20 degree off camber or more, and I remember out there on Hell’s Revenge, bill, uh, and I were talking, looking at our gadashes and seeing what our down angle was. I could have sworn that coming down off of some of those things on metal not metal masher on the Hell’s Revenge, that, uh, I was at a 90 degree angle because all I was looking at was ground. I saw the lights on my front bumper, on the hoop, and I saw the ground and looking at the dash what was it, Bill?
Speaker C: 30?
Tony: I think you got 30% angle down. I think I hit 29 with the gladiator. So it wasn’t anywhere close to what it felt like. And that is part of the learning experience, is getting out there and just getting used to the feel, because it’s just wildly different than, uh, driving on the road as it should be.
Speaker C: If you never make yourself a little uncomfortable, you’ll never get better.
Tony: Exactly.
Speaker C: But I think your estimate of, uh, half people not understanding the capabilities of their Jeeps, that’s probably a very conservative estimate. Probably say it’s way higher than that.
Tony: I agree.
Speaker C: Because how many people do you know tell other people that just buy jeeps? Oh, you need to take it, and you need to put a four inch lift on it and throw some 37s on it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they fall down this mod cascade black hole that they’ve never even drove the jeep on a dirt road. They take it from the dealership to the shop. And there’s a reason why this guy in Dallas has a backyard full of Jeep, stock wheels and tire takeoffs you can buy for $300 a set.
Tony: Yeah, it’s definitely fun putting stuff on the Jeep, but yeah, I, uh, mean, we’ve, uh, heard Greg, uh, Henderson from unofficial, uh, uh, use only talk about it several times. That, uh, Jeeps, uh, right off the showroom floor. And we’re talking wranglers and gladiators. I don’t want people thinking that, uh, the new Cherokee and the Renegades what we’re talking about, because I think that those may be, uh, capable on the trail to a degree, but not the same as, uh, the Wranglers and the, uh, Gladiators are.
Speaker E: This is Wendy again. Um, one of the things I tell my newbie group when it’s their first time out, and they ask me at the end of the weekend, hey, I want to build this up. What kind of lift should I get? What kind of this should I get? And I tell them, do yourself a favor and keep it stock for your first year and learn how to technically wheel. And then when you get the bigger stuff put on your Jeep, it’s going to be even easier.
Jamie Fowler: I tell people to try each obstacle without the lockers
Tony: What do you think about understand, what do you think about those folks that have the, uh, rubicons? Do you tell them not to use the lockers, uh, just to get a good feel of, uh, Fowler Jeep, uh, wheels without the lockers?
Speaker E: I actually do. I tell them to try each obstacle without the lockers, and if they can’t make it, then engage them. But then they will see the difference what the vehicle’s options are doing for them versus what they’re doing right. So it helps them understand their capabilities versus their Jeep’s capabilities, if that makes sense.
Tony: No, it does. Very good. That’s the way I’ve only ever had one locker, and that’s exactly what I did with it, was try, uh, the obstacle, and, uh, if it won’t go, or if it will go, but I don’t want to give it all the skinny pedal like, uh, uh, what Jamie was talking about, uh, is just turn on the locker. And besides that, I wanted to play with the locker. I had a new locker, but it’s neat. It’s neat having those tools.
Speaker F: Uh, I think anytime you want to step up a level, like if you want to go see what the extreme guys are doing and go talk to them and see if you can ride along exactly.
Tony: Right along, that’s a great actually, and it’s not so bad when you flip over because it’s not your Jeep. But you get that feeling. You learn that feel for it, and you don’t have the sadness associated with it as long as you keep your arms and legs inside.
Speaker F: Help you understand, hey, I don’t think I’m ready for this for a while.
One thing to remember when doing extreme sports is to remember the weather
Speaker E: Well, on the other side of that is talking about doing the extreme stuff is to remember the weather, because it plays a big factor, too. Um, what you were capable of before in the dry weather is not going to be the same here in the Midwest when it’s raining.
Tony: All part of the adventure. And that just makes it really cool. And you have something you can complain about and say, oh, I would have done much better, but it was raining. It’s like the guys that went to, uh, Hot Springs the last time.
Speaker D: The people at Hot Springs when we checked in, they’re telling me, okay, so that’s a three, but if it’s raining, it’s a 447. They don’t even have a six rating, but they said fives become sixes. So if it’s raining and those rocks are slippery or there’s more mud, it changes everything.
Tony: Oh, sure, it absolutely does. But that’s a good thing.
If you could take your Jeep anywhere outside the US, where would it be
Tony: All right, anybody else been on a Jeep Jamboree that you’d like to share some information maybe, uh, you have been and you don’t want to go back? All right, good. Well, let’s jump over to our next question. If, uh, you could take your Jeep anywhere outside the US. To Wheel, where would it be? Now, we were talking about Iceland earlier, having to do with the Jeep Jamboree. Uh, I think Bill was actually talking about wanting to go to Iceland. It was Greenland or Iceland. I can’t remember Iceland. Yeah.
Speaker D: So, yeah, Bill, if you’re interested in that, uh, look on the Jeep Jamber USA page, they’ve got some pictures. It’s a lot of snow. Wheeling looks pretty, um, just and I think they have Jeeps available for you to drive, because that’s the other challenge, right?
Tony: Is god, yes, that is a good point. But, I mean, how are you going to get your Jeep? Yeah, well, yeah, you just floated Pontoons. I don’t know.
Speaker D: That’s a great question, Tony, because there’s so many places that I haven’t been yet in the US. That’s probably more practical for me to get to to Wheel.
Speaker A: That’s not the.
Speaker D: Greg I mean, wheeling in Africa. Wheeling in even I haven’t even looked into the off road courses there. But it’s a oh, in Africa, the.
Tony: Off road courses are.
Speaker C: Outside, is that wheeling or is that overlanding?
Tony: Yes.
Speaker F: I uh, think it’s more the survival type.
Tony: If you read Dan’s books or you talk to him, it was a very fun, interesting adventure. Uh, I told him, I said you guys may have heard it already from the interview. One of the interviews that we’ve done is that Dan did you ever have to flee a uh, checkpoint and there was AK 47s going off while you were running away? He goes no. He goes, they weren’t like that at all. They were very friendly. And ah, one of the guards actually gave me the uh AK 47 to hold. Kind of get a feel for it. It’s like well this isn’t like it is in the movies.
Speaker D: It’s a great weapon. It’s fun to shoot.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker A: Uh, Steve from Aurora, Illinois. I have to say New Zealand is probably on my bucket list. Just some of the scenery you see from know they shot Lord of the Rings there just the scenery there. It amazed me.
Tony: Right.
Speaker A: It’s beautiful country.
Speaker D: So the other ones outside of the US. That they’ve scheduled there’s one in France and Italy.
Speaker H: No thanks.
Tony: Larry’s. Just back from two weeks in France, south of France.
Speaker D: There’s one in the Azores. Uh how do you say it? Azores. Azores.
Tony: Azores.
Speaker D: I don’t know. And then there’s one in Sandy. I think it’s Sandy.
Speaker A: Yeah. That doesn’t appeal to me.
Tony: It’s all on the beach. Yeah.
Speaker H: This is Pat from central Iowa. And being from central Iowa, I think I’d choose California as a foreign country.
Tony: To go wheeling into, uh, Gold Mountain was unbelievable. I say it every really I would say the only thing that I’ve ever seen and I haven’t seen a bunch of places but the only thing I’ve seen that’s better in a different way would be Moab is just uh absolutely huge. I mean Gold Mountain, I could kind of wrap my head around the size of it but there was a lot there. But it was gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous.
Tony Gosh: I think it would be fun to wheel in Europe
Speaker C: Gosh here in Greenville, about an hour east of Dallas. If I had to pick someplace out of the country it’d probably be Australia or New Zealand like somebody else mentioned. And that not necessarily to go wheel any specific spot but just to explore both those places.
Tony: I’m just sitting here thinking uh about various places around the world and we are so lucky in America because a lot of the places that I think of ah, are here in the United States. And uh I’m just trying to think of stuff that is uh just amazing. I guess there’s probably some uh was like Nova Scotia I’m thinking about up in uh, Canadian area that uh are also very pretty. I uh, think it would be fun to wheel in Europe. But nothing sticks out in my mind as far as Tony.
Speaker A: You remember the guy that did the little green jeep across Moab, across Utah, the toy.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker A: There’s one point he got to the video, and I don’t know if you saw that part where he says, all right, all my friends in Europe are going to hate me when I show them this. And it was a sign of open wheeling, because he said, in Europe, there’s absolutely nothing.
Tony: Oh, yeah. It’s like Texas. Um, but the people in Europe were watching him wheel. That was actually the same size vehicles they have in Europe. It is. Look at the size of those wheels.
Speaker C: Yeah, that’s actually a really good point. They got a lot more, uh, restrictions and whatnot on what they can do for modifications, especially in Australia. There’s a reason why, uh, most of their lift kits are like two inches or so mhm because that’s as high as they can legally go before you have to have an entire engineering check on your vehicle and signed off on it. It’s just a lot of extra money.
Tony: Oh, I thought that it was any lift that’s interesting. I didn’t realize they could put a two inch lift that’s good to and I’ve always thought that New Zealanders and Australians are a lot like, uh, East Texas people. Uh, uh, they’re rednecks with a different kind of, uh, accent. And it just really surprised me that they can’t do things to their vehicles because, uh, they are very much hardcore wheelers over in Australia. But they just can’t do all the things that we get to do.
Speaker A: Well, they’re more wheelers because it’s necessity. I mean, you go out into the central state, the central part of the country, there’s nothing there but just dirt trails and roads everywhere.
Tony: Snakes that will chase your ass. Yeah.
Speaker A: Everything that country is trying to kill.
Tony: You kind of think about it.
Speaker F: It kind of levels the playing fields because there’s nobody out there with the big cheater, 40 inches on tons and stretched and all that stuff. I mean, everybody’s got basically the same equipment.
Tony: So it’s like NASCAR is what you’re saying.
Speaker F: Yeah, it comes down to the skill of the driver.
Speaker H: Damn restricted plates.
Tony: All right, well, that sounds good. Uh, I don’t know, there’s a lot of places here in the United States, uh, that I would look to wheel before going over there. But if I had the money, I think it’d be fun to go over there and rent a vehicle, preferably, uh, a Jeep, uh, and go off road. I think what is it, the South Pole, where they have, uh, the penguins and, uh, uh, the station, the scientific stations down? Yeah, I think that would be a lot of fun. Uh, my luck, I’d find the thing down there, though, and, uh, have a flamethrower with me. Not a flamethrower from, uh, Elon. All right, so this, uh, is a good one. By the way, all these questions are from Steve O, uh, tonight. Uh, and we appreciate you, uh, sending those in if you’d like. To submit, uh, some questions for the roundtable. You can just go to Jeeptalkshow.com slash contact and, uh, click the link there having to do with the zoom, um, meeting. And, uh, you can give us one or up to four questions for a roundtable.
Who is your go to YouTube certified mechanic for upgrades, repairs or maintenance issues
Tony: All right, so and Steve, you’re going to have to clarify this. Uh, is it just YouTube certified mechanics, or was that just a tongue in cheek? Here’s the question. Who is your go to YouTube certified mechanic for upgrades, repairs, or maintenance issues? So Steve, what do you mean by YouTube? Is it only YouTube or is that just a, uh, tongue in cheek remark?
Speaker A: Well, it’s videos, right? Who do you oh, okay.
Tony: So where do you go on YouTube? Who do you pay attention to on YouTube for these things?
Speaker A: Yeah, I guess I’ll start one of my big ones is I’ll be honest with you, is, uh, Quadratech.
Tony: Yeah. Good videos.
Speaker A: Whenever you do a, uh, Google search, they’re the first ones that pop up. I love their videos. Does a great job. He doesn’t talk down, he doesn’t speed through very it’s very good videos. Now the converse to that is I watch their videos, then I go for to Northridge and I buy the stuff there because of pricing. But, um, I got to tell you, um, I like Larry’s videos as well.
Tony: And you’re talking about Rob, uh, at Quadratech, right? Yeah. What do you think about the Northridge videos? I’ve been really, uh, impressed with those as well. I don’t know the gentleman’s name. I have not met him. I got to meet Rob at EJS.
Speaker A: I have seen his videos, and they’re just as good. But again, it’s whenever we do that, um, I’m not tuned into one dialed into one person specifically. It’s more when I do the Google.
Tony: Search, those pop up.
Speaker A: Now, I did watch Northridge, um, something recently, and it was very good. Um, but Rob drill just seems to kind of corner the market on it, right on the searches.
Speaker H: Anyway, he does so many different things. He’s always burning out into the with new content, which you can’t always do. This is Pat from do. Uh, uh, when I’m going to do some upgrades, a lot of times I’ll start with Quadratech or Northridge or Extreme Train or whomever might have the item and whatever video they may have. But then I like to go out and find just the average Joe who’s actually installing that thing and find all of the, uh, kind of the weak points where it’s like, oh crap. If I’d have known I needed this tool, I would have done it differently or whatever. Because you know that Rob or whomever, they’re going to have whatever they need to install that set, uh, up, whereas the average person might get tripped up like the average guy I am. And, uh, so it helps me kind of punch through some of those problems and get them done.
Tony: The average guy may make the same mistake that you did or see things the way you see it, and then he clarifies it. Oh, this is what I thought, what I had to work with. And it turned out it was this, uh, I kind of had that problem when I first started working on vehicles back when I was like 16 and I was getting a chilton manual or whatever that manual was. And you look at the manual and it didn’t look exactly like what I was working at. It was like a generic look to it. So it made it more difficult to work on stuff. It was very frustrating. I just started doing it on my own. Screw the book.
Speaker D: So the one that Steve didn’t mention was Extreme Terrain, which Pat, you mentioned, and they’ve done a lot of videos as well. But one of the other things that we haven’t talked about yet is going to the manufacturer, whether it’s Terraflex or pick a company and watching their videos, which they may have everything, and they make it look easier than maybe it is, but there’s a lot of good information there, too. So typically, if I’m going to do a mod, I may watch five or six videos absolutely. Starting with a quadratech, Extreme Terrain Northridge, then go to the manufacturer, see what they have to say, then find the average Joe Pat. Uh, like you’re saying that’s probably not going to have the right tool or have to go buy a special tool to do something.
Tony: And we live in a wonderful world that we have this ability to look and learn before going out there and doing it. I mean, many of us know the turmoil of going out and looking at something for the first time. Or maybe you did it, but it was several years ago, and now you got to do it again and go, oh, crap, oh, that’s right, I got to get this and I got to do that. And where the hell is my ten millimeter socket? Uh, besides that, working on the Jeep from, uh, armchair with your coffee watching videos is a lot more preferable than being outside sweating your ass off.
Speaker D: I really like, uh, Bob’s, uh, work shirt that he had on when we were out at Egis, when he had the work shirt on that said YouTube Certified Mechanic on the yeah, yeah, he had a patch.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker F: Uh, rick from Arkansas. I’m a, uh, Tony Filegrino fanboy. I love his videos and stuff. I can’t afford any of it, but I love it.
Tony: There’s an interview coming up with Tony that, uh, he talks about, that about, he gets a little irritated about people saying they can’t afford his stuff. That’ll be one of those, uh, YouTube videos I’ll be doing, by the way, because, uh, we did get video on, uh, Tony Pellegrino.
Bleeping Jeep partnered with Bleep and Jeep to use Colt’s videos
Tony: And, uh, uh, actually, my first question for him was, uh, are you planning on moving out of California and we had an interesting start of the interview with uh, his response on that.
Speaker A: It’s interesting too. Sometimes like steersmarts when I got their stuff up and then their drag link.
Tony: Their tie rod and um, track Bar.
Speaker A: They linked the videos to Bleep and Jeep. They didn’t do their own videos. They partnered with Bleep and Jeep and used his videos, which I thought was interesting.
Tony: Mhm, it is interesting. Do you guys uh, uh, like the Bleeping Jeep videos? I used to watch a lot of them. I haven’t seen one now in several years. He’s entertaining.
Speaker A: Ah, he’s down to earth in my opinion. Mhm like honey badgery, just send it, don’t give a fuck.
Speaker H: I like Bleeping. Colt, I like the things he does. I kind of like his style and the way he puts it all together. Everybody has a different style, but I like Colt.
Speaker C: The last one I saw was uh, apparently they’re doing the Ultimate Adventure and a modified S Ten. Uh, and he’s had two videos I think now that are like over an hour long. That kind of goes along with that whole ordeal, which Ultimate Adventure is one of my, that’s like my favorite thing to watch every other year. Whenever I can finally watch it.
Tony: I don’t know what that is. What is ultimate adventure?
Speaker C: Uh, so uh, back when Peterson’s four wheel and off road was still around, I don’t know if they’re still a magazine or uh, every, I think it was every other year they had the Ultimate Adventure and it was basically a multi state kind of adventure. Off road drive. Some days they would have mostly road days, other days they’d spend the whole day at an OHV park or something along those lines. Um, and it’s just kind of continued on through the years. Uh, Rick Payway and um, Fred Williams. They’re two of the big names in that. I don’t know if Frick Payway is on this one or not.
Tony: Gotcha.
Speaker A: Now it’s interesting too. You mentioned the smaller guys, but then this medium sized but one thing I don’t like are the guys you can tell are getting their shit for free. Right?
Tony: Because you just know jealousy or what?
Speaker A: Well, they’re just pushing an item.
Tony: Oh, I see what you’re saying. Right.
Speaker A: And it’s kind of like, okay. And there’s a guy out there I’m.
Tony: Not going to name names that I.
Speaker A: Just don’t watch anymore for that reason. Because I just know his shit as soon as he slams it down on the table. It’s something he got for free.
Speaker C: Yeah. Ah, that goes outside of the off road world. But the Overlanding community is really bad with that. Some of the channels. Uh, there’s one guy in California, he’s a, ah, retired, um, Navy Corpsman. But his videos went from being down to earth and this was stuff that everybody would do or could go pick up pretty much anybody if you had any kind of job at all. Nowadays it’s like he’s towing his $60,000 Patriot Camper with his $90,000 392, uh, Wrangler. And it’s just like a big advertisement on nearly everyone he does.
Tony: There’s a certain group of people that really enjoy that though, don’t they? I mean, what was it? Robin Leach lifestyles, uh, of the rich and famous. I don’t really care for the huge axles and the huge tires and uh LS swap, hemi swap, and all this stuff where it’s uh, this huge, massive $300,000 Jeep that I’ll never do. Uh but uh, there’s a certain group of people that really enjoy that. Am I missing something here? Am I wrong about that?
Speaker C: I think this came up on uh, Ozark Overland Adventure, one of his channels. He was at some event and it came up and he brought it up where he was talking about uh, a bunch of YouTubers getting a lot of hate over that kind of stuff. And I think my biggest issue with it is whenever you go from being that down to earth, every guy kind of guy, and then it turns into, oh well, I’ve got hundreds of thousands of dollars of sponsored stuff and you act like everybody out there is running.
Tony: Around doing this stuff, they lose their authenticity. Exactly, yes. Right. Uh, but I wonder if it expands their audience. It’s not unheard of that whenever, ah, people change and they maybe change the show and if they are expanding their audience, they’re just appealing to a different audience. I know what you’re talking about and I don’t disagree with you.
Speaker C: They wouldn’t be getting those kind of sponsors if they didn’t have either a sizable or a largely growing uh, audience. Mhm, but that doesn’t make the like for the people, typically the people that started off on the ground floor with them. Uh, whenever the trail recon guy was doing like XJS and slightly modified Jeeps, and then it didn’t take long for his channel to get to where he’s towing his $60,000 sponsored trailer and all this other crap that he’s got. And it just turns into an advertisement.
Tony: Sure.
Speaker H: Yeah. It’s just disgusting when people do shameless stuff to try and get free things. I’m sick of it. I can’t take it anymore. We could just stop that. It would be great.
Speaker E: Isn’t that all part of the American dream, though?
Tony: It is.
Speaker H: Absolutely is.
Tony: I’ll uh, say here, right here and now, and I’ll deny it later.
Only 5% of Jeeps are going off road
Tony: Even if you play it back. Play the back, the recording. I, uh, want to get big enough so that we can have a mobile home type thing that we can take out to events. But I want the urban assault vehicle from Stripes. I want that GM. I want that GM thing. Maybe a couple of pop up turrets on it.
Speaker C: What you really need is the RV from um, uh.
Tony: The tri wheels.
Speaker H: If we were in Germany, you’d have to make my bunk.
Tony: Look at Chuck looking down at us. How dare he?
Speaker D: But you think about who’s watching all these videos, and we’ve talked before on the show that only, what, 5% of the Jeeps are going off road. So people are looking at bills, people are getting ideas.
Tony: They just figure they can’t afford to go off road. Ship that’s a good point.
Speaker D: No, but I think there’s people that live vicariously. Yes, I’m sure there’s people that have watched a lot of video footage on, let’s say, the Rubicon, but they don’t know whether they’ll ever get there or not. It’s on my bucket list. I plan to get there, but there’s people that I think look at trails going, I want to see that. Or the extreme stuff where they’re flipping buggies and everything else. There’s an audience for that, and there’s an audience for the total overbuilt Jeeps.
Tony: M. Well, this is like the YouTube certified mechanic thing. I hear a lot of scary things about the Rubicon. I would definitely want to watch videos about the Rubicon before I decided to go out there.
Speaker I: I think a big thing is, uh, people like to see the stock Jeeps knowing that they can do it.
Tony: But that’s a great point.
Speaker I: Channels grow and progress. The person running the channel tends to get more money. Sponsors put more money into their build and eventually they end up with kind of like lightbright as an example. When they first started, they were just in basically a stock rig. Just a regular couple on YouTube. Now they’re bigger than they ever could be and running Ultra Four and on Netflix and all sorts of stuff. Their original supporters are not there anymore as much as they were. When you’re thinking of the off road.
Tony: Community, I hate to be rich and.
Speaker H: Make money on OnlyFans and stuff, but.
Speaker C: If I could, I would listen.
Speaker D: Uh, because I haven’t been here for so long, no one knows the damn voice.
Speaker I: I hear you, Chuck.
Tony: Wait, who’s that.
Speaker H: Profanity? Can that be?
Tony: Chuck Cowboy.
Speaker F: He’s not drinking a cool stock rigs.
Speaker D: Out on the trail.
Tony: I mean, that’s where it’s at.
Speaker I: That’s why you see a big blow up. When people first start their YouTube, they’ll blow up really big and then it’ll all fade away. Even like right now. I’m sure Matt’s off road recovery, his viewership probably really isn’t there. Like it was two years ago when it was just the banana pulling out RVs.
Tony: Yeah, I don’t think that’s the case. Well, I’m an XJ fan, but he’s.
Speaker H: Got a different audience.
Tony: Yeah, I didn’t watch him do recoveries. I’m an XJ fan, so it was really cool. That was the thing that pulled me in, was he was doing all this stuff with an XJ. I mean, he did a lot of modifications to it, but I was like, holy crap, this guy’s making money doing pulling people out of really, uh, difficult stuff. With an XJ. This is wild. He’s not doing that anymore. Buying the mail along the way.
Speaker I: I liked watching him back then because it was more of, like, your everyday recoveries, where at, uh, the same time, when I first started watching that, I watched a guy hills Auto Body and Towing. I think he’s out in Oregon or somewhere where people drive out on the beach all the time. So he’s got a big setup ah, record rig just to go out on the beach and pull people out of the wash of the shoreline.
Speaker F: M Matt’s. Awful recovery. My 67 year old mom, um, doesn’t miss an episode.
Speaker C: I think that as the channel changes, their viewership probably changes, like a bunch of us who were in on the ground floor on these channels, who enjoyed them for what they were. Everyday people doing this stuff probably either very rarely watch or don’t watch at all anymore. There’s a bunch of channels that I don’t subscribe to anymore, but every once in a while I’ll catch one of their videos. But, yeah, I think that their viewership, their viewer base probably morphs to other people over time.
Speaker I: I got to tell you, diesel guy, he went from blowing up shipbox Chevys to Lamborghinis and Ferraris. People don’t stand to watch him anymore because so much money blown away.
Speaker A: The one guy impressed me was that Tomater when he went out to, uh.
Tony: What was that, um, hole that’s Rory in Moab.
Speaker E: I love watching him.
Speaker A: Where that, uh, gladiator blew off his, uh, ball joints on the 40 inch tire and then slid back down the hole.
Tony: Oh, yes. I saw, uh, it wasn’t Matt’s off road cover. Fat rat or something. Oh, was that who it was? Okay. It was coming out of one of the hot tubs. I really enjoyed seeing that. I wanted to find out what happened, what caused that thing to come off. I was surprised to see that thing come off the ball joints like that or the ball joints actually pull out. That was amazing.
Speaker I: Blue one, right?
Speaker A: Yeah, it was a blue gladiator. The fact that he went down in the hole repelled down there, passed me the ball joint kit and down in the bottom of the hot tub.
Tony: Yeah. I’m sitting there nervous about the because all they have that thing, they have the wrecker that’s lifting it up so he can work on it. And at one point where he looks back towards the back of the gladiator and says, hey, quit shaking the truck.
Tony Wright: I saw a YouTube video of a Jeep that broke
Tony: I’m underneath it. I was glad to see that he’s just as concerned about that stuff as I am, even though he’s done a lot more of it.
Speaker A: But that’s some serious credibility right there, right?
Tony: Yeah. I can’t believe they drove the damn thing out of there. I know it was towed, but they drove it out, and it was really neat.
Speaker A: They said he had three wheel drive and some of it he just couldn’t get over. He was driving it and only towed wouldn’t need it. Yeah, they strapped him.
Tony: Yeah, that was a real interesting video. I saw that and actually shared it up on Instagram. I think I saw it on, uh, the Tic TAC and shared it on Instagram. And I was really happy that that video popped up because I was very curious about what broke and, uh, it was amazing to me that they didn’t do anything other, uh, than just put it back together. Uh, uh, the uh, Ujoint broke, so they had to take that part out of there. I guess they took the axle out, uh, but it was really neat. It was cool watching that trail repair.
Speaker I: You saw the video of it breaking, didn’t?
Speaker D: Yeah.
Tony: Yeah. Bouncy bouncy.
Speaker E: One of the cool things I like about Rory and Tomators, I actually got to spend a couple of days out there with him at his shop and he’s got a young daughter and he’s teaching her every bit of what he does and she’s going to take over for him when he’s ready to be done.
Tony: Now is he associated with Matt’s offroad recovery at all his friends?
Speaker F: I think.
Tony: Okay. But it seems like I’ve seen them together or something in the videos. I thought they might be like, uh, was it fab rats or whatever.
Speaker I: But, uh, Matt has done I think he’s really put a lot of effort into building a community out of the recovery YouTube channels like Rory BSF recovery and even, uh ah, who’s the guy that did all the body work?
Tony: Robbie Layton.
Speaker I: Robbie Layton.
Tony: Yeah.
Speaker I: Get all those YouTube channels and really shine a light on the smaller YouTube channels.
Tony: That’s very honorable. That’s a very honorable thing that he does. And, uh but, uh, it’s nice. I like that idea. I would like for us to get big enough where I’ve told several people, including, uh, Chuck, that what I want to do is if you guys get the reference, uh uh, oprah used to have this book program or something on television, and she’d bring an author on and she’d make the author just simply by having the author on the show. I want to be able to do that for small companies and other people that are off road, uh, enthusiasts. Uh, maybe they’re doing, uh, the stock vehicles, but they’re just interesting. Uh, and I think this is one of the reasons why that guy that was in the toy Jeep did so well with the six episodes of him driving that toy Jeep, uh, uh, to Moab.
Speaker H: I don’t want you to sell yourself short. I think you do more in that space than maybe you give yourself credit for because, uh, any of the interviews, any of those things, um, I know I’m immediately, uh, going into those sites for those folks and looking to see how their world applies to my world. So don’t sell yourself short there.
Tony: Well, I really appreciate that. I want it to be a massive thing. I want to be able to, uh you do an interview on the Jeep talk show, you’re going to get some real eyeballs on your site, on your stuff. Uh, it’s not a personal thing where I just want to be big. I know how tough it is to build an audience, is what I’m saying. And I’d like to be able to help other people build their, uh, to I don’t need to be huge, but.
Speaker F: I’m already big enough. I heard, uh, your episode where you.
Tony: Interviewed Tony, what’s that said?
Speaker F: I never heard of Jen Wright until your interview with him on the show.
Tony: Oh, really? Yeah, I’d heard about Jen Wright, but it’s one of those things where it looks like really nice, but damn, it’s pricey. Tony’s a great guy. I mean, really. I, uh, just got to meet m him briefly, uh, at EJS. There was food involved and I had to go eat, but, uh, uh, super, super nice guy. Anytime. Uh, that we’re, I think this is going to be this one that’s coming up is our third interview that we’ve done and he genuinely wants to teach people, he wants them to understand how things work. So, uh, his stuff might be pricey, but he enjoys making things that are really good and do what you need to do. And also, too, uh, it’s really important to him that you understand how it works.
Speaker E: The other nice thing about him is that if you talk to him about the stuff that you have on your vehicle, even if it’s not gen right. He will tell you how to tweak it or what to do with it, to make it do what you want.
Tony: Absolutely.
Speaker F: Hot Springs he talked to me for about 45 minutes and walked around his Jeep and the other Jeeps there that he had and answered all kinds of questions. He’s a busy guy, he’s got a lot of stuff going on. He took a long time talking.
Tony: Yeah, not all those guys are like, no.
Speaker E: I did the, um, inaugural Nomad Overland Rally last year and I had talked to Tony before it started and told him about it. And six months later I got an email from him wanting to know if I had gotten everything I needed to compete in the rally and how’d it turn out for me. I thought that was pretty impressive.
Tony: Oh, and I’ll do a plug real quick here for, uh, Tom Wood. Back when Tom Wood, uh, was running that instead of Sean. Uh, i, uh, remembered, uh, emailing, uh, Tom, because I was going to put an atlas in the XJ and I was just checking with him about drive shafts and stuff. And, uh, he called me up on the phone and then we had about a 30 or 40 minutes conversation and he told me exactly what I should. Get. And, uh, then I needed to go with a larger Ujoint, uh, and another different, uh, yoke for, uh, the Chrysler Eight and a quarter. And then he, uh, sent me, uh, the rear drive shaft, modified the front drive shaft, all for free. And, uh, it wasn’t like it was a big Jeep talk show or anything back then. It was just him being a great guy. And not only did he give me, uh, the bigger drive shaft for the back of the XJ, it was one of those, uh, show drive shafts. Uh, it’s all nice and polished, silver and clear coated. So, yeah, I mean, Tom, uh, woods is, uh, tops in my book. Well, as I always like to say, the show goes on even though or actually the show, the Zoom meeting goes on even after the show is done. Uh, we try to keep this around an hour. We don’t have to keep it an hour, but, uh, just trying to do things kind of maybe in a professional way. Of course, we don’t get all our questions, but maybe we’ll have, uh, the remaining questions. We only had one question left over. What is your favorite TV show? Jeep? It’s kind of, um, I don’t know, a cutesy, uh, question, but often fun. Doesn’t have to be a great, uh, question, does it?
The Jeep Talk Show Roundtable interviewed several Jeep enthusiasts for this episode
Tony: All right, so, coming up on our next JTS interview episode, marvin Stamel, uh, and you may have heard of him. I had not heard of it before, but I’m certainly going to be watching some of his videos now. He is a YouTuber, and he, uh, does Flex, Rocks and Rollovers, and he does some pretty interesting things, he and his group, and it’s a professional damn deal. He’s actually got a film crew, a video crew that goes out with him on, uh, these events and does things. You got to check out, uh, the YouTube, just do a search. Reflects rocks and rollovers. That brings us to the end of another exhilarating jeep talk show. Roundtable Episode I want to express my deepest gratitude to our incredible panel of Jeep enthusiasts for sharing their valuable insights, experiences, and expertise with us today. Your passion for Jeeps is truly inspiring, and we’re grateful for your contributions. I also wanted to extend a heartfelt thank you to our listeners who joined us on this adventure. Your support is what keeps us motivated to bring you the best Jeep content out there. Remember to subscribe to our Patreon page@jeeptalshow.com, contact and unlock exclusive perks, and join our community of passionate Jeepers. Until next time, keep those Jeeps running strong. Hit those trails with confidence, and remember, it’s not just vehicle, it’s a way of life. This has been Tony hosting the Jeep Talk Show Roundtable Episode, and we’ll catch you on the next ride. Broadcasting since 2010.
(00:00) Welcome to the Jeep Talk show roundtable. On tonight’s episode, we’ll be asking you
(01:14) You can advertise on the Jeep talk show for as little as $5
(03:34) To roundtable meeting attendees, please introduce yourself with your name and location
(04:19) Chip asks Bill if he would do another Jeep Jamboree
(08:01) Chip, which one do you like better, Jeep Jamboree or USA
(14:25) Jamboree organizers need to make sure vetting process is thorough
(16:46) Chip: Sometimes people overestimate their vehicle or their skills
(24:34) Jamie Fowler: I tell people to try each obstacle without the lockers
(26:17) One thing to remember when doing extreme sports is to remember the weather
(27:11) If you could take your Jeep anywhere outside the US, where would it be
(30:33) Tony Gosh: I think it would be fun to wheel in Europe
(34:33) Who is your go to YouTube certified mechanic for upgrades, repairs or maintenance issues
(39:39) Bleeping Jeep partnered with Bleep and Jeep to use Colt’s videos
(45:24) Only 5% of Jeeps are going off road
(51:24) Tony Wright: I saw a YouTube video of a Jeep that broke
(58:46) The Jeep Talk Show Roundtable interviewed several Jeep enthusiasts for this episode
Jeep Jamboree USA
Southern Missouri Off Road Ranch
https://www.smorr.com/
Quadratec
https://www.quadratec.com/
Extreme Terrain
https://www.extremeterrain.com/
Jeepers Jamboree
https://jeepersjamboree.com/
Peterson’s 4 Wheel and Off Road
https://www.fourwheeler.com/
GenRight
https://www.genright.com/
Girls Play Off Road
https://www.girlsplayoffroad.com/
Northeast Offroad Adventures
https://www.northeastoffroadadventures.com/
Offroading 101
https://www.offroading101.com/
Smoky Mountain Jeep Invasion
https://www.smjeepinvasion.com/
Jeep Jamboree, Trail Guiding, Youtube Mechanics, Off-Road Destinations, Jeep Modifications, Extreme Terrain, Vehicle Capabilities, Driver Experience Levels, Event Registration, Group Placement, Stuck Vehicles, Stock Jeeps, Sponsors, Patreon Support, Iceland Jeeping, Australia Jeeping, New Zealand Jeeping, Africa Jeeping, Europe Jeeping, Jeep Community
Episode 911 – Own a Movie Jeep?
Own a Movie Jeep
The World War II Jeep From ‘Saving Private Ryan,’ ‘Band Of Brothers’ Could Be Yours
The Willy Jeep was the workhorse of World War II. The rugged transporter saw action in every theater of the war in the early 1940s and would continue to serve in armies around the world for many years. One pristine example is heading to auction next month with a unique provenance.
The 1944 Willys Jeep comes from TLO Film Services, which has supplied vehicles for movie and TV productions since 1962. TLO’s records indicate the Jeep has been used in Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Pennyworth, and other productions.
TLO purchased the Willys in January 1996, and the listing says it had three former registered owners before that. It was first registered in the UK in 1977. The Jeep received a complete rebuild of its original engine in February 2023 and has 25,975 miles on the odometer. That’s not bad for the 80-year-old, left-hand-drive military vehicle finished in Olive Drab paint.
Many movie cars have ended up in the hands of private collectors. Wayne’s World’s 1976 AMC Pacer was auctioned in January 2022. The only surviving W Motors Lykan HyperSport stunt car from Furious 7 rolled across the auction block in 2021.
The live auction for the 1944 Willy Jeep will take place during the NEC Classic Motor Show Sale 2023 in England on Sunday, November 11. That’s Veterans Day in the US and Remembrance Day in the UK and other nations that observe the end of the First World War. The guide lists it as selling for 18,000 to 22,000 pounds ($21,900 to $26,785 at today’s exchange rate), which is cheaper than the 2024 Jeep Wrangler, but with a lot fewer features, too.
2024 Jeep Wrangler Grill Change
Is Jeep Risking Ridicule by changing the iconic grill?
The 2024 Jeep Wrangler has an updated 7-slot grill. It’s not 6, or 4, or 9, it’s 7 slots.
However, it does look similar to the FIAT 500 spinoff Renegade grill.
Could this be Jeep trying to standardize a look or a theme here? It may be easier to see Jeeps other than Wranglers this way.
I think this would only be true for the casual Jeeper. Die-hard jeepers will notice, and have.
Yes, you can be a die-hard Jeeper and a Renegade owner.
Jeep Talk Show Gladiator Update
Differential Cover and Murphy
The differential cover, or diff cover, protects the gears in that roundish bit on your front and rear axles. It also keeps that important fluid inside!
When you go off-road there are things that can damage the diff cover and cause the cover to either come in contact with the gears or cause the oil to drain out. Sometimes both.
Changing from the stock diff cover to aftermarket is one of those things that most Jeepers decide to change before they experience a trail repair they don’t want to make.
The question is often, which diff cover to I update? Front or rear.
The front makes sense since it’s more likely to strike a rock or something tougher than the cover is.
But a rock can catch the lip of that rear stock diff cover and peel it back enough to cause a leak. You may not know about that leak until you’re heading home and the gears heat up and fail.
Another good reason to do an inspection after wheeling.
JTS listener Steve O. purchased an ARB diff cover.
We’ll have a link to Amazon.com for this – https://amzn.to/3tBzapr I’m going to be buying mine from Northridge4x4 using the discount code available to our Patreon subscribers!
As you may recall I mentioned in a previous episode I was looking at this one for the 2021 Jeep Talk Show Gladiator.
I’ll be following what Steve O. has to say about it on our Discord server.
So what diff do you upgrade, front or rear? The easy answer is both, but most of us have to pick one, collect more aluminum cans, and buy the other.
I’m going with the front. Murphy’s law says I’ll get a leak in the rear.
The JTS peeps tell me that the factory seal can be re-used, otherwise, I’ll use a Lube Locker.
Steve O is installing his this weekend so we’ll be getting updates on our Discord server.
Jeep Cherokee XJ steering geometry
Jeep modifications have a series of issues. I like to say no modification goes unpunished.
A 4.5” lift on my Cherokee didn’t seem to cause problems with bump steer, but going to 6.5” certainly did.
My fix was to get a drop pitman arm. This reestablished the proper geometry for the steering.
This caused more issues!
I’m going to guess there was about 2 to 3 inches of play.
I kept looking for the issue and I found that even though the nut on the pitman arm was super tight, the pitman arm was moving on the shaft.
I figured the pitman arm was the issue, so I bought another. Same issue. My solution was to have a special, large thick washer made to put between the pitman arm and the shaft nut. This made the pitman arm tight and the steering play was gone, well at least back to the factory. It’s likely that what needed to be done was to replace the steering box. Not a bad idea for a 25-year-old daily-driven Jeep.
I did make another change later that made the steering as tight as the wife’s TJ steering. But that’s a story for a future episode.
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