In this Jeep Talk Show flagship episode, hosts Tony, Natalie, and Janet dive into the fun and unique world of “Jeep thangs!” Discover what makes the Jeep community so special, and learn about the infamous death wobble—what it is and how to handle it. Don’t miss this exciting episode packed with Jeep insights, laughs, and much more! Tune in to stay connected with everything Jeep.

 

I get so oily, I’ve actually kind of gotten out of it, but in the past I would have to wash my hair every day because it would just get so damn oily. Of course I don’t get as sweaty as I used to being in the house all the time. So not going outside, I recommend. Fat boys don’t go outside, it’s hot out there.

 

Well I’m on day five of no wash, but can you tell? Can you see it? No, I can’t tell at all.

Jana, that’s a very good episode. We’re gonna talk about dry shampoo.

Yeah we are.

And the brands that work so well. You know I’m surrounded by women here at the Studio A with my two daughters and my wife, and I found out about this dry shampoo thing and I was really surprised. I’ve not tried it and I don’t paint my nails. So there’s a reason for that.

It’s a time saver for sure.

 

Can you tell, and people are going, it’s a Jeep show. Can you tell, does it feel better whenever you put the dry shampoo on it or is it still nasty?

 

No, I mean it’s so kind of nasty, but at least it doesn’t look greasy.

So the feel doesn’t change.

Right, it’s the look. So before I sprayed it on, the grease was like down to here, but you can’t tell, I mean it looks pretty good.

I’m just saying such a turn. I know.

 

Let’s move on. Two women and a guy, we gotta talk about women stuff.

 

And I’m curious about everything.

In Studio B you’re surrounded by women too, Tony, because we’re on each side of you right now. So here we are.

Well you know I have two boys.

Your regular Barbies are here.

I have two boys, but they’re older and they don’t live here. They’re a real pain in the ass. Girls are a lot easier to deal with.

 

(Laughing)

 

I have one of each, I don’t know. The Jerry’s still out on that one.

 

All right, so in our news stories, it’s a Jeep thing. What does it mean?

 

Did you guys find out about this stuff when you first got into Jeeps? Natalie, did you know about the Jeep thing when you got your, what was it, 2001 TJ?

2000 Canary Yellow.

Yep.

 

You know I didn’t, but the first time I took it out by myself, we lived on a lane. So the long lane, I’m going down and I get on the main road and here comes the Jeep at me and they’re waving and I’m like, okay.

Oh no, I’ve got a flash.

I keep driving and I was like, all right. And I remember I had on, oh my gosh, Natasha Beddingfield Unwritten. That was the first thing I listened to. Am I Jeep, yes. After I turned 16 and, wow, I sound like Major Wrangler Barbie right now, but I kept getting all these waves. I’m like, why are people waving at me? And then I finally found out it’s a Jeep thing and you’re supposed to wave. So now I’m like, holy cow, I have the best family in the world.

 

So how about you, Janet, whenever you first got into a Jeep or repossessed your husband’s Jeep, ex-husband’s Jeep. Ex-husband’s Jeep. Yeah, I had to correct that, I know.

 

I’m been divorced too and I want everybody to know that I’m no longer with her. So did you hear the Jeep thing and was it confusing to you? It was like,

 

yeah, she, both guys have heard the, I think I have the Jeep thing because it burns when I pee.

 

You haven’t heard that one. You haven’t heard that one. That’s a good one.

No, I’m not having it.

(Laughing)

I love the reaction on these things that you guys don’t know about because you lead sheltered lives.

We do. Well, I mean, maybe people need to wash better.

(Laughing)

 

Maybe that dry shampoo, okay.

Yes, and wipes on the trail. Maybe we need to talk about that.

 

Yeah, when I first got the Jeep, they told me about the Jeep wave. So that was the first thing. No, I get so excited. Oh, they waved at me. And then I would get so mad when somebody didn’t wave back. Then it was the ducks, right? Cause COVID happened right after that. And now it’s like when you go to these Jeep meets and talking about, oh, what upgrades do you have and where have you been? So yeah, it’s definitely a learning curve when you get on these Jeep forums and the Facebook pages and what to say and what’s gonna trigger some people about what you talk about. Angry grills trigger people severely.

 

Oh my gosh, Mr. Carnage, he’s all about smashing them in his videos. So yeah, it’s a trigger for sure.

Yeah, it’s all good. Do you guys sell angry grills at Tylift off-road, Natalie?

We do. Oh my God. We do. The grumpers, the grumpers. I like that.

(Mumbles)

 

How about eyelashes? You sell the eyelashes for the headlights?

No eyelashes.

How about the lens cover or the headlight covers to have the eyes on them? Oh yeah, the snake eyes.

 

But you know, I don’t really see them leave the shop. They have some dust on them in the showroom. So I think we’re safe in the Cincinnati region.

Well, you know, we have a lot of new listeners every episode. And that’s one of the reasons why I was bringing up this Jeep thing, because it’s like, Jeep thing, I haven’t heard of that. What is that? I’m curious. And it’s a way of,

 

it’s a way of getting around answering questions, I think. So I don’t know, did you guys ever listen to, I don’t wanna bring for it on the name, black comedian that’s since left us, really, really good black comedian. And he,

 

in one of his comedy routines, he was married to a white woman and she was questioning him about some of his activities and things that he did. And he used the excuse that he was a black man. You don’t understand, I’m a black guy. This is a black thing.

 

And I thought that was so funny. He simply didn’t want to explain, he didn’t wanna be held accountable for what he was doing. So he used that as an excuse. Well, Jeepers will use the Jeep thing as an excuse. For example, and anybody just raise your hand here if you don’t know about these. So rollovers, that’s a Jeep thing.

 

The CJ. The Jeep thing.

I haven’t done it yet.

Yeah, the CJ when it came out, there was a lot of issues. And I think one of the, I don’t know, one of the people that watch card, self-appointed watch card of the citizens,

 

followed a lawsuit or made a big stink about it. And they were, and Jeep was having really hard time with selling the CJ because it was a little narrow and it had some issues as far as rolling over. Not a lot, but somebody could say to you, if you had a CJ, but aren’t you afraid that’s gonna roll over on you? Nah, that’s a Jeep thing. It’s just something you deal with. I mean, it’s– It’s just you deal with it. Yeah, I like saying it’s part of being in one of the cool kids. It’s a price that you have to pay, not with your life, because it’s probably not gonna roll over. But that was one of those things you could say it was just a Jeep thing.

 

Gas mileage.

 

I’m battling that right now, because I’ve been driving a Jeep every day and not my spark and I’m filling up every other day. But it’s a Jeep thing.

Yeah, I mean Corvettes, I’m sure they use a lot of fuel, especially if you drive it with fun. The old Vipers.

 

Oh yeah.

It goes with what you consider important in your life. And it may not be your primary vehicle, maybe you have a saver, a gas saver. I know Natalie, I know you do. And I would be, I just, I love being in the Jeep. I love being up high where I can see around, especially in traffic, see what the hell is going on, instead of reading the back bumper, the license plate of the vehicle in front of me, every 2.5 seconds. And I just, it’s just more fun. So having to spend a little bit more money on gas is worth it to me.

 

Same, I agree. And if somebody asks like, well, what’s the MPGs on the Jeep? That’s not why you’re buying it. You’re gonna be sad if you look, just change that display on the dash. You don’t have to worry about it. But the fun thing is you can watch that.

 

Move if you look close enough.

Oh you can, that’s scary, isn’t it? Natalie, yours is really gonna do that now with all the modifications that have been made.

I know, I’ve been driving the JL equivalent this week, little twin, so she’s on 38s and so very similar build. And I’m like, oh, this is what it’s gonna be like. Okay.

I hope you told Bailey you need a company gas card if you’re gonna be driving that.

I used it a couple of times, he knows. He knows.

 

(Laughing)

So I’m like a moving billboard for you going from the street.

That’s right, exactly. It’s advertising, you’re paying for advertising.

 

So here’s one, I don’t know that everybody’s experienced this. I’ve never experienced it in my, any of the Jeeps I’ve owned. My wife experienced it in her TJ shortly after we got it. Probably I’m gonna say within a year after we got it, we got it used and it’s a death wobble.

Oh boy.

 

I’ve had it. Me too. Isn’t it fun?

(Laughing)

It’s so fun.

(Laughing)

I’m gonna die.

Because you survived.

 

Yes. Yes.

I’m a death wobble survivor.

Oh yeah, we need to get a little pin or something with a wobbly tire or something.

Yes.

I’m a death wobble survivor.

Yes. I just always wondered like, what did I look like to people on the road when it was happening? Like, could they see the death wobble? Could they see me moving around?

Oh my God, those tears just go in the nuts.

 

Yeah, well, I mean,

 

fortunately they didn’t see you have to pry the cushion off your butt once you got home.

 

(Laughing)

You feel like yelling out the window, just let me slow down, it’ll be okay. Just let me slow down.

So it’s a harmonic vibration. And I’m sorry, there’s some people out there that don’t know what death wobble is. Basically your front tires. They will. Go back and forth very rapidly. So from like from side to side, very rapidly. And it’s a harmonic vibration that gets built up, usually because of worn steering parts in the front end. And the cool thing about it is, is that it’ll happen around the same speed. That vibration, whatever it is, it has a certain speed. So 40 miles an hour, 30 miles an hour, whatever it is. And it doesn’t happen all the time. And quite often it’ll happen, like if you hit a bump or something.

I was gonna say the bump. Yeah. The good old railroad tracks, for me it was the railroad tracks.

Yeah, it does.

The bump, the 155.

It gets that vibration started and it amplifies as it goes on further. So did you guys know that you can speed up and it will stop the vibration?

 

No, that, no. Not when that’s happening.

I just wanna stop. Yeah, I just wanna be like pull over.

Nobody wants to, nobody’s brave enough to try it.

Never thought in my mind, like you need to go faster when this is happening. No.

No, of course, no. It’s counterintuitive. But yes, I mean, you’re changing the harmonics. So you can do it by going faster or slower. And of course the slower is the one everybody wants to do very quickly. So I had it in my 1983 Chevrolet Silverado, short wheelbase 37s. And I mean, I was in my twenties and I didn’t know, have any idea that such a thing existed. There was no internet.

 

So it was just one of those things that happened. I never did anything to fix it. But mine was all pretty new front end. But who knows? It may have been not very good front end parts. I’ve learned a lot about off-road vehicles since then.

 

Well, and it happens to people that have trucks too. So it’s not just a Jeep thing, but it’s not a matter of, if it’s a matter of what.

Yeah, any vehicle with a front axle can get depth wobble. Yeah, no kidding. So for example, the Bronco is IFS, which is not a solid front axle up front. It uses something that’s getting more common in the market.

 

And it breaks really easy because it’s not as strong as a solid axle up front. But that is one of the downsides to having the solid axle is the depth wobble. And like I said, I have not experienced it in my XJ or in the Gladiator. One of the reasons why I think I’d never had a problem with it in the XJ was I upgraded my front end parts multiple times. So through these upgrades–

You never got it to that point.

It never got worn enough where it was gonna cause an issue. So yeah, it’s easily fixed. It doesn’t cost that much money if you can do your own work. And if you can’t do your own work, it probably doesn’t still do, it doesn’t cost that much money, probably around $1,000 or something. But it’s not anything I’d wanna spend $1,000 for because it really is pretty simple.

 

So I got a list here. Do you guys, anything come to mind about the Jeep thing where you just say, oh, that’s just part of owning the Jeep?

I mean, Janet, when we did our first chit chat, our chick chats, say that sometimes fast. I know we were talking about like the normal things about Jeeps and that, I was talking about my ball joints pointing out and it goes in my ball joints because it was just squeaking and I just kept saying, it’s a Jeep thing. It just, it’s supposed to squeak. So, you know, that’s something I was always like, it’s not just a Jeep thing.

It’s not. So like the crackles and the rattles and the whining is not normal.

It’s not normal.

People may tell you it is. Yeah, it’s a Jeep thing. It’s a Jeep thing. It’s just like, oh, there’s a new squeak or there’s a new, something needs to be tightened or something needs to be adjusted somewhere, but yeah.

I also think parking, like parking on a curb or as a big snow plow mound, like in the parking lots in the winter, every time it’s a Jeep thing.

Yeah, if there’s a rock, I’m gonna flex on it.

All right, so winches.

 

You see a lot of Jeeps with winches.

 

Do you guys have winches on your Jeep?

I do. Yes, sir.

How many times have you used it?

 

Oh gosh. Three.

 

Oh, that’s good. Three cents.

Off road.

But mine’s new. Yeah, off road recovery.

 

I bought a winch for the XJ. That was the first winch I ever got, put it on the XJ. And I’ve had no reason to use it except to pull out a old rose bush for my wife.

 

(Laughing)

There we go. Hey, it’s a lot easier than trying to dig it out, that’s for sure.

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It pulled out really good. It didn’t even drag the XJ forward.

 

Oh gosh, perfect. I have used it since then, but I was like, hey, I got a winch, I wanna try out type situations. So it wasn’t like it was actual absolute need for it, but it’s like any tool that you have. It’s better to have the tool and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Absolutely. I’ve used mine over five times. So, I was doing trails I shouldn’t have been doing in my old setup.

Oh good, so you used it for self recovery.

I did, yeah, yeah. That’s how I was able to do trail 16 in Windrock actually, because I had to winch myself out.

So, and for the new listeners, the people that are new to Jeeps and stuff, the winch is very handy, great thing to have, but are potentially very dangerous.

Yes. Very.

Like removal of fingers, dangerous.

Or head, or if the winch, if it loses its traction, its grip comes apart, yeah. You have to be very careful. There’s a lot of safety precautions to take when you’re using it.

So, it’s absolutely very easy to get a winch, and winches are pretty cheap these days.

 

And it’s really easy to install one. Maybe the electrical isn’t as easy, but just bolt it onto your winch bumper. And yes, you need a bumper that’s specifically designed for that, or a plate, depending on the bumper.

 

Like the Jeep steel bumpers. I don’t know that they come with winch plates, but you can get a winch plate for it. And by the way, the Jeep front steel bumpers are very nice. I was very surprised how nice they are. I mean, Jeep really built a very nice thing there. So, but yeah, you can get a winch, but I would recommend that you go to a class, a 101 or 102 off-roading class, and learn about winches and the safety and using the gloves if you’re using a steel cable winch. And yeah, there’s several things, and there’s great places out there that you can find out more about it. And there’s always YouTube. I think you actually need to go in person, but at least watch some YouTube about how to winch.

 

Absolutely. And we do sell a warm winch at How the Fuff Road, guys.

 

Warm is very nice. Do you guys do a super winch as well?

We do. The super winch, oh my gosh.

Yeah, I said it wrong. It’s not super winch, is it? It’s super something though.

 

We only carry the warm brand, so.

Oh, you only carry the warm?

We’re also, we are a warm service center now, so you can actually bring your winch in, and we will service that for you, so you don’t have to ship it out anymore.

What kind of issues do you see as far as service goes? Is it just not the people not taking care of it, or?

It’s definitely the not taking care, like not cleaning the line, like unspooling, re-spooling. But I’ve seen a lot of the bolt damage, so they’re stripping the bolts out because you’re letting too much line out, so it’s not able to get that spool properly for when you’re trying to winch back in. So it’s definitely more of a bolt issue lately.

 

Yeah, I’m sorry, I just looked it up. It is super winch. I was thinking it was super something else, but super winch.

We do not carry that one. But I think we could order it for you, but in stock we have a Mount Winchmore in the shop, so it’s kind of fun.

 

Mount Winchmore, that’s funny.

Yeah, that’s a good one. Janet, what winch brand do you have? I have a Smittybilt. I bought one of those for my wife’s TJ. It actually does very well off-road. I’ve known several people with them.

 

I don’t know which one you have, but it was an 8,000 pound winch. And I’m saying this and people go, oh my God, that’s heavy. So it’s capable of pulling 8,000 pounds.

Yes, I believe mine is 12. Right, like doing bicep lifts with it.

 

lights on my Jeep of in

oh you need lights it’s my favorite it’s a Jeep thing.

It’s a Jeep thing. It’s a Jeep thing.

Like before lockers that’s what we all do here.

Exactly lights before lockers. I did it backwards.

People are probably sick of me mentioning this but it really depends on the area that you live in and I think disasters can happen anywhere in California is going to be earthquakes in southeast Texas and even up into central Texas when a tropical or or hurricane comes through you may be in a situation where there’s down parallines down telephone poles tornadoes for example Oklahoma so if you’re out you know you should be at home but if you’re out driving or maybe you’re crying to go help a loved one or or you know get get them back home those lights are going to be more important than lockers.

Absolutely.

It’s great to have both but yeah it just really depends on what you’re doing and those those lights are great and something I didn’t really think about and maybe you guys have already experienced this the lights the bright lights are great for you to see probably not so great if you’re behind people in the trail run.

It’s so bad I get I get told often about my lights and I thought people were just being like waving at me. No they’re not waving.

 

Well and we went to hot springs earlier this year and there was a guy behind us that had the yellow you know amber lights and turn them and I’ll say I feel like the sun is behind us trying to catch us.

 

The lights out there are so great I’ve got the Tyree lights thanks to Ken at Tyree lights and they are just wonderful. I have a problem with lights. I’ve always loved lights and watches and Ken kept bugging me. He goes you need to you need to get rid of those Amazon and he didn’t say it this way but you need to get rid of those cheap Amazon lights and put the Tyree lights on there. I said okay damn it Ken that’s fine.

Okay fine. Oh my god

they are just so amazing and the way they’re built I mean these are commercial lights that I have on the on the Gladiator and they’re wonderful. But I’ve got two sets I’ve got a set that’s down low on the bumper and then I’ve got two seven inch duels up on the the hoop of the bumper. So I would say one of the things that maybe is a good thing to keep in mind is if you go with lights that are lower it allows you at night to see the terrain better because it shines shadows and gives definition to what’s coming up. So it’s almost like making something 3D and when you just wash it out with very bright white lights it’s cool but it’s really not helping you choose your path.

 

And also found that because we see better in amber or yellow colors that making those lights down low amber really enhances the your ability to see the the upcoming terrain.

Oh yeah a buddy mine has really tiny they’re about the little bit bigger like a silver dollar amber lights on his knuckles. So when he’s moving and on the rocks and everything it is amazing how those lights enhance like it’s I that’s my favorite thing I love it. Yeah that’s really cool. Yeah.

Yeah I saw that a couple of years back and I’m thinking to myself not oh this this would enhance my my off-road performance. I went oh wow I can put more lights on my Jeep. That’s cool.

 

I do like the rigid right now we can be featured on our gladiator but it has a backlight so like we have a lot of the blue ones but they come in red too and the amber and it looks really cool and it’s like real dim but it’s still backlit so you can use it. It makes it kind of fun.

 

Yeah it’s a Jeep thing. Lights before lockers. Jeep thing. But also Baja designs can’t speak good enough about that too.

Baja designs are very good. We actually need to get them on the on the show and have a little conversation on them. Do you guys know about oh I’m forgetting the name now. The owner is big into nachos. I think it’s nacho lights and he loves any place he travels he finds the best nacho place to go eat and have nachos. We had him on and those are those are nice. Oh in fact now that I think about it he was the guy that owned the rigid industry company and then he sold it whoever has it now and then a couple of years after after selling it he and a couple of buddies started up this nacho lights company and they have some really nice lights but it’s it’s really interesting. I loved interviewing these folks because you find out things that are going on that I just had no idea I think most people don’t.

I stopped listening after you mentioned nachos. I love nachos. I’m hungry right now.

 

Yeah okay so all these things can all these things you can reply to what it’s a Jeep thing. If you would if you wouldn’t understand so if you don’t understand what a Jeep thing is let us know tell us what or maybe there’s some things here that we’ve missed that what a Jeep thing is you know whenever you just tell somebody when they they question you about why do you have a Jeep you have a midlife crisis. Why you got those those lights up there all that stuff you get to say it’s a Jeep thing you wouldn’t understand.

Yeah the

wife’s not buying it I guarantee you.

No.

 

All right so I think we we probably suspect this and this actually could go under the heading of it’s a Jeep thing Jeeps with the highest maintenance and repair. Oh boy does anybody care.

 

I mean it’s not why we own them for our wallet.

That’s the point and I think that the people that are reporting on these things don’t understand that it’s not a car. It’s not something that you drive back and forth to work. It’s not something it’s not a Subaru that maybe you take on minor trails. This is something that because it’s modifiable extremely modifiable that it just is something you have to consider when you’re driving it.

It’s our life. Do we dare call it a lifestyle. Oh okay. This is going to I’m going to do a sidebar here just for a second. Natalie have you noticed a lot of our mannerisms have been the same. Oh my gosh.

We’re doing the hand like this at one point and I was like yeah boy I didn’t realize it’s after I was already in it and I was like what now I got to stay in it.

Now you know you have to commit. So the fact that we said the same thing at the same time. I love it. That’s why we get along so well on the episode. You’re in trouble.

I agree.

 

No it’s fine. So the Jeep is much more expensive to maintain than other brands. So they say Jeep is significantly higher as a brand that industry average which I don’t know. It’s kind of like I think it’s like having dating a supermodel. There’s certain things that you got to do.

 

Yes there is.

To be with something to be with something that you know to spend your time with somebody there’s a certain amount of things you get up with.

 

Well you can compare that to dating or marrying a Jeep girl. We don’t want flowers we want Jeep parts.

Absolutely. That’s a good point. Do you guys consider the the the the person’s interest or disinterest in Jeeps whenever you’re dating somebody. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

I don’t date but. But I don’t either but the last one I tried.

You don’t need that negativity in your life is what I’m saying.

Exactly. I just want to be a fan of what I want to.

 

That’s why we have cats. They don’t complain about the Jeep. They don’t.

 

So over the course of 10 years Jeep models average $10,930 in maintenance and repair costs compared to the industry average of $8,419. I think these are people that are having other people work on their vehicles. I can’t believe that it’s $10,000 over 10 years.

 

Well I mean that’s about $1,000 a year. Does that include oil changes and everything else?

I don’t know. I think it would have to.

I mean I don’t know. I’m sorry.

You’re right. It does say maintenance maintenance and repair costs. So yeah it would be oil changes and all the things that have to do with the maintenance of it. I guess tires would be included in that as well.

That sounds I mean that sounds about right. It doesn’t sound too far off. I don’t know. I mean my Ultima is giving me I mean my Ultima is probably doing the same thing. She from 2016.

She’s gonna.

 

vehicle that so many people can’t do. I mean, you’re talking about that. Absolutely. You’re not going to take that thing off road. I mean, you could.

I mean, I could.

 

She already has enough stuff hanging off underneath. I just need that ripped off.

I’m totally good. I drove my spark through the grass at my list. I felt like I was off-roading. So I was like, oh my gosh.

Yeah. It’d be a good cleaning. It’d be like getting the barnacles off of her. Yes. So damn it, we’re having such a good time talking here. We’re going over a lot of time for the news stories. So I’ve got to get this, this news story in before we go.

 

So Natalie had some issues pulling into her driveway. I’m sorry. No, this is somebody. Poor little twin. This is somebody in Cincinnati that got stuck in their driveway. They couldn’t get out of their blue. And I think this is a probably a JLU. And they’re at quite an off-camber angle. And the only thing is you’re from Cincinnati. I don’t know if you know about these driveways, but this driveway is weird. It’s like a chute. So there’s walls on either side. Is this something that you see common in Cincinnati?

It is. It’s like it’s the River Rock. And so all these old River homes, they’re built with the garage going deep, like down into your basement. So you kind of go down a little hill because the yard is built up on each side. So it does look like a chute, but that’s all River Rock that people use to create those retaining walls. And they are strong, very, very strong. I mean, I have my own thought about what happened this week on this story. I’m just going to be honest. It to me, it looked like they were trying to flex and they didn’t disconnect the sway bar in the front.

 

That’s what I think happened.

Well, look, I just realized in this note, this picture is in our show notes for this episode. Look at the underneath. There is nothing dirty. This looks like it’s either brand new or very new.

So clean. Like, oh my gosh, it actually kind of looks like Mike’s 392. I’m not going to lie. I was like, what’s happening?

What happened to it? Horrible.

I mean, my Jeep is my Jeep is clean underneath, but it ain’t that clean.

I mean, it is spotless.

I mean, from my understanding, I heard. I’m hoping they changed the oil while it was up. If they can get out.

Right. That’s a great way to do it.

Right.

 

This story did spread like wildfire all through Cincinnati. All the clubs were posting about it. I mean, we get what posted about it. I know, I know.

 

But my understanding, the throttle control could have been an issue. The foot getting stuck with the pedal.

Yeah, it was an issue with the foot is what it was.

The JL does sometimes have a turbo in it. Maybe that happened. You never know. So, but it looked to me like they’re trying to flex on the wall and be cool and get all flexy. And it didn’t work.

You never know what actually happened, but apparently what they told the police or whoever was that they got, they started accelerating, put their foot on the pedal that they weren’t intending. And it, they went up, I guess, on the retaining wall and went down. Yeah, sure. And now they couldn’t get out.

 

I was thinking about this. I forget who I was talking to about this about. Maybe it was you, Natalie.

 

But I was thinking to myself, how does a tow truck get that out without scratching the hell out of the driver’s side? It’s just not going to happen. I mean, and I doubt that you’re going to have people come out there with two tow trucks and try to pull the thing over a little bit. And by the way, this is one of the reasons why you want rock sliders on your Jeep. Because now you have a tow point that isn’t the pretend roll bar that’s inside the one use roll bar that the Jeep includes with the Jeeps. So, yeah, I mean, like I said, this looks like it’s a brand new Jeep. I feel bad for them. And how embarrassing anytime you get stuck with a Jeep, especially if you’re on road or in your front yard, it’s, it’s very embarrassing.

I’m going to try to find them, Tony, and we can have them on the show.

It would be wonderful. I promise not to drive them nuts. And I’m hoping it’s not a woman.

 

That would be bad.

Be real bad. Especially on tonight’s episode.

 

Watch it, Tony.

 

All right. So yeah, I mean, thank God the other wall was there because this definitely would have been a rollover.

Oh, yeah.

And what did we learn about rollovers?

It’s a Jeep thing. It’s a Jeep thing. It’s, again, it’s one of those, it’s not if it’s when.

 

All right.

One out of three hosts it’s happened to. So here we are.

It doesn’t happen that often. You guys don’t need to worry about it. All right. So with, with Wendy and Larry out tonight, and by the way, I do really appreciate you guys coming in last moment to join me here on the flagship episode. And by the way, doing a wonderful job. And I’m sure that our listeners are going to comment on this, because you guys just do a wonderful thing. And I’m trying not to talk so much because you guys do so well at this. So with that in mind, Natalie, you’re going to be heading out to four Fest on in January, was it that you said?

 

January with an asterisk. We’ll just say that. But yeah, so next Friday, September 6, and also Saturday, September 7, Detroit four Fest is going on at Holly Oaks, which is actually a badge of honor as well, guys. So if you are in the area of come check it out, it’s going to be a lot of fun. Also, Chris is going to be there from the Jeep talk show. He is going to be doing some hosting, and I’m going to join him on the main stage for a little while, the Cooper tire main stage. We’re going to talk about Bill Stein shocks for a tiny, and then he’s going to come join me in the Maxis booth as well. So the red Jeep’s making another a trip. So she’ll be up there and I’ll get to see our other our old friend Julianne too. So it’ll be a lot of fun. A lot of Jeep talk show going on up there.

You know, this is why it’s wonderful having you guys be part of the show, because you’re in the areas of the country that are difficult for me to get to. I mean, I would like to go in my Jeep and be at the same time. But it’s gosh, that would probably be I think that’s further than going to Moab.

It is it is.

Yeah.

And this one, I mean, I would love for you to come Tony would be really cool. Jeep brings a bunch of concept vehicles and you can actually go off road for the first time. You don’t have to come in a Jeep to be able to experience Hollyoaks itself. That’s kind of that’s what the beauty of four fest is all about the celebration of going in for low.

And Natalie, I think we were talking about this earlier, Tom Zelinski, four fest event, the guy that’s behind four fest events. He does a wonderful job of getting vendors out there. So when you can go to a four fest event, it’s it’s really worth your while to do that. And and from what Natalie was saying, you guys need to slow down so that you can see the vendor.

Stop it and see me because the vendor midway, guys, you guys are actually in your Jeeps and rolling through. That’s how a majority go through it. So then you kind of hop out and it gets it’s very different. It’s a very unique experience. So I highly recommend it. Come see us also be with the Brent Hensley and his demon gladiator as well. We’ve talked about him. So I’m gonna get a little possessed. Maybe you never know.

And it’s great having you up there in the Dallas area because Dallas is Janet, the Dallas area because Dallas is four hour driving time from Houston. A lot of people don’t understand how big.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

Yes. Wow. I realize that.

So so yeah, I haven’t been to Dallas a lot of times in my life. It’s just too far to go.

I think it’s also a four hour drive for me to get from my suburban city to the center of Dallas in downtown. Oh yeah. The traffic here is terrible. I work, luckily I work from home. My business is here at the house. So I really don’t have to go many places unless I’m doing an install in a Jeep, or any other vehicle.

 

But yeah, the drive is to get out of Texas. Like when we went to Colorado a few months ago, the majority of the drive is getting out of Texas and it’s flat.

 

And when you hit those wind turbines, you’re like, okay, I’m almost there. Almost there.

It’s wind turbines. Oh, it’s a cool thing to look at. I mean, those, so many of those wind turbines.

So the wind turbines, when you’re driving towards, you know, Amarillo and all that, one cool thing, if you ever noticed when you’re driving at night is the little red lights at the top are synchronized. I want to know the story behind it. Was it like one? Yes.

 

And the ones on the left of the highway or, you know, whatever, each side of the highway has their own synchronization and there’s always like one or two that are off. Oh, I didn’t notice that. That guy that says the last day on the job, they’re firing him and he’s like, you know what, screw you guys. I’m going to make this one different. So every time I drive out towards the Amarillo and West Texas area and I see the synchronization of all the lights, it’s, it’s really cool to see that.

You know, somebody out there listening knows how that’s done,

 

works out the way you want it to work out. It’s really, really good. And I really appreciate you being on. Both of you are very fun. I hate Wendy and Larry not being with us this week, but it’s really fun to have you guys here to talk to you. Because it’s not me talking 24 seven.

 

And Natalie and I just have a conversation. That’s what it really comes down to. We just, you’re just, you get to peek in on us just having a conversation. Absolutely. Fulfill your voyeurism fetish there.

(Laughing)

Oh, speaking of voyeurism.

(Laughing)

 

We got to check in with Nikki G.

Yeah.

 

From the mind

of Nikki G.

 

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Hey, this is Nikki G. Now that I’m putting my segment in video form, it’s kind of difficult for me to edit. When I did my audio, I can just pick out all the times I go and have nothing, trying to think of what to say.

 

So yeah, when I do it in video, I got to do it in one take without editing. So here we go. Let’s give it a try. My doctor told me I was going deaf. Yeah, that was hard for me to hear.

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Read a horror story in Braille. Something terrible about that. And I got a bad feeling.

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Essentially, go to brothers decided it was possible to fly. As you can see, they were right.

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So you guys can’t see what he did.

 

He had costume changes in that weekly, or biweekly, Nikki G.

 

Go to YouTube to see it. That’s right. It’s entertaining.

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All right, so coming up this Friday in our interview episode, every Friday is an interview episode, Kim Swartz traveling to all 30 MLB stadiums in her Jeep and working remotely. Janet, she’s also IT. And she’s been working from her Jeep, or just outside her Jeep, where she’ll set up and do what she needs to do. And the interesting thing was, is that when I interviewed her, she was someplace, somewhere in the world, somewhere in the United States, and she was flying– At a ballpark? Yeah, near one anyway. And she was flying back for a meeting. So she was parking her Jeep at the airport, covered, a covered area. And she was gonna fly to do the meeting that she needed to go to for IT. And then she was gonna fly back and get her Jeep and continue on on her trip. So, I mean, it’s really, really neat.

 

And I’ve got it, I don’t think Bob cares. So I think both of you guys know F.U. Bob. And that’s a loving thing that we say.

 

He found her on Tinder.

 

Oh. He’s the one that scheduled to get her to do the interview.

Oh my gosh, I love it.

Yeah, and he contacted her because he saw the Jeep.

 

(Laughing)

Oh my gosh. So if you’re on Tinder and you’re maybe not getting the views or the whatever it’s called, well, there’s a cat.

 

He’s got a little Hitler thing going on there.

 

(Laughing)

 

So if you’re on Tinder and you’re not getting the views or the interactions that you want, maybe you should add a Jeep to it, right? They have nothing else. Bob may be talking to you.

 

I thought it was so funny because when she filled out the form to come on the show, she actually sent an email telling me that she had met Bob on Tinder and he set up the interview and stuff. I figured she was just cracking wise. I figured she was just being a smart ass. And then when we got on the interview, I found out literally that was what was going on.

Oh my gosh, that’s so funny.

That is hilarious. It is almost as interesting as her story about going to the 30 baseball parks around the country. And what a cool thing to do, especially you’re working, you’re continuing to work, but you’re also driving your Jeep around either sleeping in your Jeep or outside the Jeep in a hammock. It was a fun story and a different type of story, which we love. I can’t wait to hear it. All right, so in our must have stuff for your Jeep, I don’t know, neither one of you guys have dogs, right? You have all, you just have cats?

I have a dog. Oh, okay. Oh, you do have a dog. I have Lily, the German Shepherd.

 

Oh, that’s right.

You talked about, yes.

I do. You talked about Lily. So do you find a situation where you want to take, I mean, I hate putting the dogs like in the back. I don’t like the dogs being outside or any of that stuff. I like them, they’re fun. They’re fun being there, but I can see situations where you might want to isolate them, especially if somebody’s traveling with you that really isn’t a dog person.

Or if you have your doors off.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Or even if they are a dog person, even if they are a dog person, they may be scared of a larger dog.

Yes.

So you can get one of these nets from RTTCZ,

 

that’s almost as bad as Chick-Cha.

 

Car, rear, trunk, organizer, isolation, cargo net. So it’s basically a mesh, you know, the, you guys have seen it before, and I’ve never talked about this, but it’s a mesh dog barrier divider, and it’s good for your Jeep Wrangler, JKU, JLU, four door 2007 through 2023, and it’s $46.99, and you also could use this as a way to keep things that are in the back, in the back, and not rocking towards you in the front, they’re in a rollover.

Yes, you want to cage those kids in the back. Yeah. I mean, I haven’t done it, but I imagine that’s what it’s for.

 

(Laughing)

I would never do that, but what a great idea. I would never.

 

So yeah, check this out, we have a link to the Amazon, where you can get this and enjoy that isolationism, but I don’t think the dogs are always gonna find a way through there, and the cats, no, they don’t care.

 

Cats will definitely find a way, those won’t climb it, so.

Absolutely. Speaking of dogs, two dogs just came in here to the studio, and the little dog is under my desk, sniffing around, she’s looking for dust bunnies, and I think she’s training the Cane Corso. Did I tell you guys this already?

 

I love the dogs, I wish they would just come up here and lay down at the office while I’m doing this stuff. Anyway, I saw the little dog come in, and it stuck my hand down to the side of me, so that if she wanted me to pet her, I could just pet her while I’m doing the show. And I didn’t realize the Cane Corso was right behind her, because she follows Buffy everywhere. And the next thing I know, my hand’s being bitten.

Oh, Buffy bite.

Yeah, from the Cane Corso, I was like, oh crap, that’s not Buffy.

 

You have to pick up one of the dogs in the view, so we can see it, like we did with our cats.

Even the small dog doesn’t like being picked up. Oh goodness. Yeah, and she’s not that small, and she’s fat. And I think the fat thing is what gets her.

She’s self-conscious.

And the other one’s 50 pounds. She’s just big boned.

 

Leave her alone.

You know those fat skeletons, you know?

 

All right guys, well it’s been so much fun being here with you, we ran a little long, but damn, I think it was worth it. Actually, we’re a lot shorter in time than I thought we were gonna be. 40 minutes for the news stuff. I think she’s working if you want me to. That was so much fun. And you know the funny thing is, we’ve heard this repeatedly, that people like the longer episodes. And it’s only me that tries to keep it around an hour. So yeah, the good thing about it is, is that if you want the show to last longer, there’s a lot of shows you can listen to. There’s a lot of episodes out there. Yeah. So I just wanna thank Natalie and Janet, you guys being here, we tried to do it last night, but you guys were both busy. Said, “Hey, how about Friday?” You said, “Sure, that sounds great. Sorry for the short notice.” But I certainly appreciate you coming in here because nobody wants to hear an episode of me doing it by myself.

 

We love it, Tony, thank you. It’s not as fun. We do love it.

Yeah, and really enjoyed it. All right, well thanks for listening to this episode of the Jeep Talk Show. If you’ve enjoyed the show, please leave us a rating and review. Oh, leave us a comment on YouTube.

 

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