Episode 738 – Is the Comanche Coming Back?

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The Rumor Mill Says The Comanche Is Coming Back

What if it’s time for the Jeep Comanche to return? The Ford Bronco came back to rival the Jeep Wrangler, the Ford Maverick was a neat car that’s now a popular tiny truck, and the Chevy Blazer destroyed its heritage with the abomination we see on the roads today. Now rumors suggest the Jeep Comanche is next, and speculation in the automotive world is running wild. It’s possible that the Jeep Comanche could make its return soon. Across each vehicle brand, people want a single-cab truck, and companies are taking notice. Plus, the tiny truck world is exploding as the Ford Maverick breaks sales records. Also, there are solid rumors pointing towards Toyota and Chevy getting back in the small truck game. However, the Maverick is the top option to beat as of the end of 2022. It’s the perfect time for the Comanche or a single-cab Jeep truck to stun the competition. While the Jeep Gladiator is great for those with towing and hauling needs, it’s big for a mid-size truck. And as many of you may know, the longer wheelbase of the Gladiator isn’t the best for rock climbing and narrow trails without the truck are well-modified. But a smaller truck could be better equipped for climbing and adventuring as we’ve seen for decades with the Wrangler and its short wheelbase.

So how would Jeep make this little truck? What platform could it be based on if the automaker was to move forward with this? Well, the Jeep Comanche could be based on the Jeep Renegade, like the Ford Maverick is based on the Ford Escape. Now if we go back in the time machine to 2020, we can take a look at the J6 concept Jeep that was unveiled at the Easter Jeep Safari, which arguably gave Greg Henderson of Official Use Only the inspiration behind the 2022 Quadratec build for SEMA.

Also, if you remember, the original Jeep Comanche was based on the Cherokee XJ back in the day, so we can’t count a Cherokee-based option out just yet.

Now I know here on The Jeep Talk Show, we have long bashed the Renegade for its diminutive size and lack of any serious offroad chops. However, for many out there, it’s considered an incredibly capable little off-roader that can venture right off the showroom floor and into the wild. Hell, Jeep dragged one through the world-famous Rubicon trail, so it has to be able to do SOME wheeling.  Anyways, the Jeep Comanche could have an edge on the incredibly well-selling Ford Maverick by using a traditional body-on-frame build. This would clearly make it far more durable for off-roading and would dramatically increase its suspension travel potential. But as we all know, this is far more likely to be a unibody design. Vehicles like the Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz have a unibody build, (much like the XJ did back in the day,) which helps them handle more like SUVs and less like trucks. Ok, so the possibility of the compact single-cab Jeep truck is real. We know what platforms it could be based on and who its direct competition would be. But what about the engine that would power this compact single-cab Jeep truck? Rumors suggest that the Jeep Comanche could borrow from the Jeep Renegade. But when has the Renegade gotten any fresh updates?  It has had the same 1.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine with 177 hp and 210 lb-ft of torque for a while now, and I’m honestly surprised we haven’t seen an update yet, as we are way past the usual mid-cycle refresh that Jeep has had a track record of doing. There are ideas about a new PHEV setup with 240 hp available. But a hybrid truck or Comanche 4xe would probably arrive first. But, we are still waiting on the Jeep Renegade 4xe that is also rumored to arrive in the US soon so there may be some intended market testing embedded in there somewhere as well. And other countries would likely have a turbo diesel model of the Jeep Comanche should it come to fruition, so that would be interesting to see. To truly be competitive, however, the powertrain and chassis of the Jeep Comanche would have to be capable of towing up to 5,000 lbs to match the Hyundai Santa Cruz and outmuscle the Ford Maverick. Will any of this actually happen? It’s too early to tell, but the rumor mill is saying that we might hear more as early as the first quarter of 2023.

NJ Jeep Dealership Catches Fire

The Ocean Township of New Jersey was rocked around 9:15 pm the day after Christmas 2022 when a Jeep dealership broke out in flames. Both police and firefighters were dispatched to the Seaview Jeep dealer on Route 35 to investigate reports of smoke and an active alarm. Police arrived on the scene first and confirmed the smoke condition. Further investigation led to the confirmation of a working structure fire in the back end of the service area. A full first alarm was called at this point. 

The first engine company stretched a hose line to the B side of the building where police were reporting the heaviest amount of smoke was coming from. An extra 2.5-inch hose line was also pulled off the engine. Crews made a quick knock on the fire inside, but a second alarm was called anyway. Asbury Park Fire Department Tower 89 arrived next and went to the roof to provide ventilation. The cause of the fire is unknown at this time and is currently under investigation by the Monmouth County Fire Marshal’s Office.

 

Newbie Nuggets with Wendy

What’s your favorite item you have on board when you wheel?

If you have been wheeling for any length of time, you know we all have lots of tools, gadgets, recovery gear and who knows what else on board if you wheel a lot. If you are new to wheeling, well buckle up because you WILL be adding items as you wheel more. Whether you hear a suggestion on the Jeep Talk show or you notice what your buddy has and want one – Yeah It’s a Jeep Thing!

You can visit Jeeptalkshow.com and look at episodes #426 and #533 for a list of items to carry on board. While you are there, check out past episodes on all sorts of info to help the newbie and the experienced Jeeper.

I thought it would be fun to pose the question to you the listener and our JTS team: If you had to pick only ONE item, what is your favorite item/tool, etc., that you have to have on board when you wheel and why? Call into the show or email us and let us know – I’m always open to hearing about other things that I might need to add to our jeep.

It’s hard to narrow it down to just one item but my favorite is the soft shackle. I have done plenty of recoveries and training and I have to say the soft shackle is my favorite item. It’s easy to use, especially for me (a woman). I don’t have to get a “tool” to loosen a D-ring (clevis). The metal shackles are good for some things, but for most recoveries, I use soft shackles. Plus they are safer to use over the metal D-rings in case something breaks. Make sure you get an American-made product along with the highest rating you can find (i.e. 45,000lbs) and you will need 3 on board. Trust me on this. I like the Gear America product but we have used Rugged Ridge and Factor 55.  

 

It’s the New Year and that means it’s time to review the gear you have on board and make sure everything is still in good shape. Did you use some of it and there are tears or frays in winch lines, straps, etc? What about tools, did they all make it back in the jeep? I know we had to add wire, nuts/bolts, and ratchet straps after our last breakdown on the trail. We try to put things back in their place after every jeep trip but sometimes life gets in the way.

Reach out and let us know what your favorite item is and maybe I’ll mention it in one of my Newbie Nugget segments. I love when listeners give me suggestions on topics.

I appreciate you listening and thanks for another great year on the JTS team. I’m looking forward to 2023 and getting out there and wheeling with and meeting more listeners.

https://www.gearamerica.com/

https://factor55.com/product-category/soft-shackles/

https://ruggedridge.com/search/?q=soft%20shackels

Jeep Talk Show Gladiator Update

Engine Oil in very cold weather

In very cold weather, it is important to use engine oil that is suitable for low temperatures. Thicker oils, such as multi-grade oils with a higher viscosity rating (e.g., 10W-30 or 5W-30), are generally better at maintaining their flow properties in cold temperatures and can help protect the engine against wear.

It is also a good idea to check the vehicle’s owner’s manual for the recommended oil viscosity range for cold weather operations. Some vehicles may have specific recommendations for very cold weather (e.g., below -20°F/-29°C).

In addition to using the correct oil viscosity, it is also important to ensure that the oil level is correct. Cold weather can cause the oil level to drop, so it is a good idea to check the oil level regularly and add oil as needed.

Finally, it is a good idea to allow the engine to warm up for a few minutes before driving in very cold weather. This will help the oil circulate and reach all parts of the engine, which can help protect against wear and improve the vehicle’s performance.

Jeep engine warm during very cold temperatures:

Use a block heater: A block heater is an electrical heating element that is installed in the engine block. It helps to warm the engine oil and other internal engine components before starting the engine, which can make it easier to start in cold weather and can help reduce wear.

Use a remote starter: If your Jeep is equipped with a remote starter, you can use it to start the engine and let it run for a few minutes before driving. This will allow the engine to warm up and the oil to circulate, which can help improve the vehicle’s performance in cold weather.

Park in a garage: If possible, try to park your Jeep in a garage or other enclosed area to protect it from the cold. This will help to keep the engine and other components warm, which can make it easier to start and can help improve the vehicle’s performance in cold weather.

Use a battery blanket: A battery blanket is a device that wraps around the battery and helps to keep it warm. In very cold temperatures, a battery can lose its charge more quickly, so keeping it warm can help to extend its life and improve the vehicle’s starting performance.

Use an oil pan heater: An oil pan heater is a device that is installed in the oil pan and helps to warm the engine oil before starting the engine. This can help to improve the vehicle’s starting performance and can reduce wear on the engine in cold weather.

By following these steps, you can help keep your Jeep engine warm during very cold temperatures and improve its performance in cold weather.

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

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Jeep Talk Show on Facebook https://facebook.com/jeeptalkshow

Rat Bastards Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ratbastard

Rat Bastards Webpage https://ratbastard.lol

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Episode 736 – Good Dog, Bad Dog?

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Good Dog?…. Or Bad Dog!?

I think by now you’ve likely seen some funny videos online of people doing stupid, funny, bewildering, and sometimes shocking stuff in their vehicles. I don’t think I’m at risk here of saying that I think Russia is at the top of the list for the largest amount of content created in this category but I digress. This week a story surfaced that is just too bizarre to believe if I hadn’t seen the footage to back it up. From the video, it looks like we’re seeing a Right Hand Drive Jeep Grand Cherokee rolling down a parking lot or something and then crashing right into another car. And it’s only upon the moment of impact do you realize that there’s a dog behind the wheel. The presumed owner of the Jeep, (and the dog) comes running to the rescue immediately as we see the Jeep in motion. She’s running alongside the Jeep and grabs a hold of the passenger side door and door jam like she’s going to be able to stop the momentum of this 4200-pound SUV rolling down a hill. Yeah, you go Karen! Her efforts are of course completely futile as the Jeep, the dog driving the Jeep, and super Karen all come crashing to a stop at the bottom thanks to a parked car. The dog looks over as if to say, what? Is it over already?  Freya, a border collie, is the Jeeping K9 in the driver’s seat. And in the video, the owner of the Jeep and dog, whose name is NOT Karen by the way, claims that Freya knocked the gear stick loose, putting it into drive and causing it to roll. Once the Jeep had a little momentum and crested the hill in the parking lot, it was all over. Despite driving without a license, the dog is fine and is still a “good dog.” However, she has been permanently banned from sitting up front in her owner’s Jeep.  The owner of the car that was hit, says he thinks the entire incident is hilarious. Obviously, this whole thing could have gone sideways any number of ways, and this story would have a much different feel to it. Maybe there wasn’t a car at the bottom of the hill, maybe it was a daycare or something. Maybe the woman tried to get into the Jeep and ended up getting run over by it instead? The owner of the car that was hit could have been a complete douche nozzle and started a brawl. Thankfully there were no injuries, and everyone involved had a good sense of humor about it all too. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/zq298o/do_dogs_in_cars_count/

Speaking Of Jeeps Crashing….

We report every so often horrific Jeep crashes. This isn’t because of some twisted fascination with people getting hurt in Jeeps, it’s usually to point out that although the sport of off-roading, Jeeping if you will, is relatively safe, there are all sorts of risks that need to be taken seriously. Sometimes in these stories, it’s just an unfortunate series of events, totally out of the blue. Sometimes it’s because of negligence, bad decisions, or intoxication. And too often these stories involve the loss of life. Today’s story is unfortunately one of those. On Monday, December 19th, 2022, at around 5:45, Officers and first responders with the California Highway Patrol’s Santa Rosa office and the Monte Rio Fire Protection District responded to a crash on private property at the Happy Hills Hunting Club in a part of the county northwest of the unincorporated area of Cazadero. According to the reports, one of the Jeeps was driving down a dirt road and initially overturned on an embankment and fell some 300 feet into a ravine. 

The vehicle’s driver, a 32-year-old man, and a passenger, an unidentified young boy, were both killed in the crash. A second Jeep, driven by a 49-year-old man and carrying two boys attempted to help the first, but also overturned down the embankment and into the ravine. Emergency responders attempted to extract all five people, but the steep terrain and an incoming fog bank required that they instead call in the use of ATVs to access the scene of the crashes. According to the California Highway Patrol, the driver of the second Jeep was airlifted to Santa Rosa Memorial Hospital with life-threatening injuries. The two children in the second Jeep were transported by ambulance to Santa Rosa Memorial with moderate injuries that are not considered life-threatening. The identities of the man and child killed in the initial crash have yet to be released by the Sonoma County Coroner’s Office pending notification of their next of kin. What lesson we can glean from this accident is utterly and entirely secondary to the tragedy that took place. Was it poor trail conditions and there was a washout? Was there snow or ice involved? Did the two Jeepers know each other? I don’t know. There are so many questions and unfortunately not enough answers. What I can say is this. If you are not incredibly well equipped to rescue someone from a ravine, despite feeling like you’re abandoning a person in desperate need of help that you just know you can provide… it is going to be better for everyone involved if you instead go and get help. If there are multiple people in your party, then it’s logical to leave someone behind to relay communications, but trying to traverse 300 feet down the side of a ravine is only going to add to the number of people that the search and rescue teams will need to extract.

I can’t fault the man in the second Jeep for trying to provide some assistance, in fact, it’s outright heroic, but you have to know your limitations and there’s got to be a point where you take your own personal safety into consideration, especially when there are children involved. 

Say Goodbye To The V8 For This Jeep

Jeep has quietly dropped the V-8 engine option from its two-row 2023 Grand Cherokee SUV. The move, first discovered by Motor Authority on Monday and now has been confirmed by Jeep, means the most powerful two-row Grand Cherokee you can order right now is the 4xe hybrid.           …aaaand the crowd goes mild.

The 5.7-liter naturally aspirated V-8 was rated at 357 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque and offered as a $3795 option for 2022 model year two-row Grand Cherokees. Now, the only engine options available are the base Pentastar V-6 and the 375-hp hybrid powertrain which, as Motor Authority points out, is more powerful, torquier, more efficient, and almost 1 second quicker to 60 mph than the outgoing V-8 model. Well, that’s all fine and dandy on paper, but I don’t think that a hybrid power train is going to give the tingles down there (if you know what I mean) every time a light turns green. 

That being said, we don’t have to say goodbye forever to Jeep’s V8 engine. For now, at least, it will still be available in the three-row Grand Cherokee L. Though it probably won’t be for long. Stellantis’s new twin-turbo straight-six has already been added to the higher-priced Wagoneer models, and it’s expected to make its way into the Grand Cherokee lineup sooner rather than later to replace the V-8 altogether. Nothing’s been confirmed at this point, though. So a lot of this is just industry speculation, and educated guesstimates. At the time of this recording, there are still a handful of V-8-powered two-row Grand Cherokees on dealer lots, so if you want one, you can still have one. But you’ll have to act fast. Are these really the last days of a V8 Jeep?

Must-Have Stuff Pick-of-the-Week for your Jeep!

JEEP WINCH MOUNTING PLATE FOR FACTORY BUMPER 

(07-18 JK WRANGLER) $199.95

https://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-jk-winch-mounting-plate-1162c.html

If you own a 2007-2018 Jeep JK or JKU Wrangler, and it’s still mostly stock, but you want to add a winch because you’ve found yourself getting a little braver offroad and you want an option to self-recover if it comes down to it, then I have the solution for you. You’re probably like most Jeepers though, you cringe when you see the prices for a winch bumper. And don’t get me started on the prices for tire carrier bumpers. So what do you do? Don’t fear, because despite what you may have heard or been told, you CAN add a winch to a factory Jeep bumper and do it safely and with reliability. Here’s the bonus, you can do it with basic hand tools too, and it costs a fraction of what a full winch bumper will run you. I present the Rough Country 1162 Winch Mounting Plate. It is specifically designed to work with your factory JK bumper and can accommodate all standard-sized winches! Compare this to similar systems that only allow you to run a specific model or two AND will cost nearly twice as much. So for ease, flexibility, and price, this is the must-have item for adding a winch to a stock bumper of a JK.

Tech Talk with Jeep Talk

TOPIC/QUESTION: What Gas Should You Run In Your Jeep?

There has long been a debate going on about which grade of fuel is best to run in our Jeeps. There are the guys that go out of their way for the non-ethanol-added gas, and some that won’t run anything but super in the tank. I knew a guy back in the day that was running 105-octane race gas in his Jeep. And there are those of us who will throw the crappiest, dirtiest, cheapest gas we can find and if you catch us on a bad day, find a bottle of kerosene and paint thinner dumped in just to bring it up to over a half tank. For 99% of us, you’ll pull up to the pump and see the three grades of unleaded fuel that are generally allowed to be pumped to the public in the US. These include 85-87 octane regular, 89 octane mid-grade, and 91-93 octane supreme fuels which also typically have a higher level of special proprietary additives which range from lubricants to detergents. Without diving too deep into fuel chemistry and covering every additive and formula out there, the basics are this: A higher octane rating of gas basically means that the fuel is more stable. The number on the button you press for regular or premium is the octane rating of that grade of gas. Octane is the measure of how much compression a fuel can withstand before self-igniting. Ok, so you’re probably wondering “why is this important for my 25-year-old Jeep?” Fuel that is more stable is more difficult to ignite, which is good for high-compression, performance-tuned engines.

Low Octane fuel in a high-compression engine can cause detonation, which can damage the engine. Detonation is simply short for pre-detonation, meaning that the fuel ignites before the ignition fires. Now, most of our Jeeps motors wouldn’t be considered high-compression performance-based engines. Especially if they’ve been around the block a few times if you know what I mean. But a higher-octane fuel is less likely to pre-detonate during the compression stroke in any engine regardless of tune or compression. If an engine is experiencing detonation, it can usually be heard by the human ear without special equipment, so if you were wondering if you’re experiencing it now, that’s how you can tell. You’ll have to keep an ear out, though, as it will generally only happen when the engine is under load, like when climbing a steep hill or accelerating to get on the freeway. This noise is sometimes referred to as knocking or pinging. Extreme cases of detonation sound like a glass jar of marbles being shaken by a cracked-out squirrel on too much caffeine. Ultimately, the best way to avoid detonation and to ensure your engine lives a long happy life is to use the fuel grade recommended by the manufacturer. Most mass-production engines, including the 4.0L inline 6 we all know and love, to the Pentastar V-6 engines typically found in most JK Wranglers, were engineered to run best off of regular ‘ol 87 octane pump gas. Anything greater than the recommended 87 octane rating is likely going to be a waste of money for 99% of the driving you do. Interestingly enough, some modern computer-controlled engines that do require higher octane fuel are advanced enough that they can run just fine on 87-octane fuel as well. In these engines, when or if the engine knock sensors indicate there is detonation, the computer will retard the timing, which will reduce power slightly, but eliminate the detonation. Remember, knocking, pinging, detonation, or whatever you’re calling it, typically only happens under load, and not while idle, or during average street driving.

So it may be best to stick with the regular and not spring for the super. Save the higher octane fuels, and octane boost additives for when your Jeep is going to see some actual work, ….NO picking up the neighbor kid and his three friends on your way home from the grocery store doesn’t count. And I’m sure hauling your empty shells back from the range isn’t going to add up to much either. I’m talking about when on the trails, or when towing a load of gravel for the side yard. Who knows, adjusting your habits at the pump might just save you enough for some more Jeep parts.

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

Interact With The Show! https://jeeptalkshow.com/contact

Jeep Talk Show on Facebook https://facebook.com/jeeptalkshow

Rat Bastards Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ratbastard

Rat Bastards Webpage https://ratbastard.lol

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Episode 699 – The First All Battery Electric Jeep

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Jeep Debuts The Production Model Avenger (BEV) 

As you heard in the last episode, The Paris Auto Show just happened, and Jeep decided it was time to show off its fully battery electric… “Jeep.”   As I’ve reported in past episodes, this particular Jeep is destined solely for European markets until Jeep’s U.S. market makes the shift, in what… 2030? However, we finally get to see what the production model is going to look like in person. It uses the group’s second-generation 400V electric powertrain and is the first one to be launched by Emotors, a joint venture between Stellantis and Nidec Leroy-Somer Holding. That’s a name you may want to remember, as I think we may see some good stuff come out of this partnership. 

Leroy-Somer is the world leader in industrial alternators and one of the world’s leading manufacturers of electromechanical and electronic drive systems. So if you were working on a capable all-electric off-road machine, this is the team you want working on the drive systems. Jeep claims a power output of 115 kW (156 hp) and 191 lb.-ft. of maximum torque. Stellantis claims its new, in-house 54-kWh battery pack delivers 248 miles (399 km) of range in the WLTP cycle or 341 miles (549 miles) in the urban cycle.

The Avenger is supplied with a 100-kW Mode 4 cable which, when connected to fast public charge, yields an 18.6-mile (30-km) range after just three minutes. Considering that figure is the average commute for Europeans, the automaker estimates the vehicle can be driven for days before fully recharging. Could that work here in the states? Perhaps, but this next fact is what may leave most people familiar with the Jeep brand scratching their heads. Considering It’s a Jeep, it must have some sort of off-road credentials right? Riiiight? Riiiight….. Well… about that, the off-road capabilities will include it being the first front-wheel-drive-only Jeep vehicle equipped with standard Selec-Terrain! ….does that count? So with your front-wheel drive battery Jeep, you can select up to six different driving modes, and get a hill descent control too.

Just to make it look official, right Jeep? Well, at least you tried. 

Jeep Club Kicks Off Toys For Tots Campaign With Success

Now, this is newsworthy and it just so happens to be one of those feel-good Jeep stories too. Christmas is going to be a lot merrier for several area youngsters thanks to the Adrenaline Off Road Jeep Club. Club members gathered to start a ride and to help kick off the Toys for Tots campaign. This is the second year Jeep drivers from Virginia, West Virginia and Tennessee have spent a day having fun and helping the cause. The Marine Corps Reserve, which is the official sponsor of Toys for Tots brought a trailer to where the Jeeps gathered to begin their 50-mile trek.  Rick Rose, leader of the group asked each person going on the ride to bring a new toy for the drive or make a monetary donation. The Toys for Tots campaign opened on Oct. 1 and will wrap up in mid-December when gifts are distributed.  The club got a big hand from the Plum Creek Quilters, who held a raffle and also prepared lunch for riders and others to purchase.

And you know them quilters make a MEAN lunch! NOT to eff’d with.  Rod Mayberry, from Mountaineer Marine Corp Reserve, said the toy drive will get up to full speed around the first of November, but this was a great way to start. Check this out, THIS is how Jeepers do it!…. When the day ended Mayberry’s trailer was three-quarters full and the cash bucket had $2,700 in it. Mayberry said the group will be accepting donations at several locations in the area in the coming weeks.

Adrenaline Off Road – https://www.facebook.com/groups/1228542594265829/

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

Interact With The Show! https://jeeptalkshow.com/contact

Jeep Talk Show on Facebook https://facebook.com/jeeptalkshow

Rat Bastards Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ratbastard

Rat Bastards Webpage https://ratbastard.lol

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Episode 695 – On Board Air Tanks

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Car and Driver Tested The Hurricane Inline Six Engine

Car and Driver have been around since 1955, and it didn’t take long for them to become one the leaders in automotive journalism. Barely a year after its start, the company created the “Testing Hub” where they push products, engines, and even vehicles to their limits. Then they take a deep dive into the numbers behind the tests.  Car and Driver got their hands on one of Jeep’s new twin-turbocharged “Hurricane” inline-six engines.

Apparently, the new motor is proving its worth, beating the old Hemi V-8 in both acceleration and fuel economy. Test results for the 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L with the new 510-horsepower version of the twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline-six show that it’s both quicker and more efficient than the 2022 Grand Wagoneer with the 6.4-liter V-8—even though the six-cylinder SUV they tested was the bigger, heavier long-wheelbase L model. They managed to get the 6428-pound Grand Wagoneer L from 0 to 60 mph in just 4.7 seconds. This beat the old, 102-pound-lighter, V-8 model by nearly 3/4 of a second (0.7 seconds)  That advantage shrunk to 0.4 seconds and 2 mph in the quarter mile, as the off-the-line advantage of the turbo’s 3500-rpm brake torque launch wears off when faced with the raw gas chugging power of a Hemi V8. But that’s still DAMN quick for a full-size, truck-based SUV, beating out the Ford Expedition Stealth Performance model’s 4.9-second run to 60 mph and coming closer than anyone would have expected to the supercharged, 682-horsepower Cadillac Escalade-V’s 4.3-second sprint. Although Car and Driver said they would categorize the Jeep’s boosted six as quite responsive, turbocharged engines’ power delivery is never as instantaneous as that of a naturally aspirated engine. So with that, the inline six did suffer in some of the rolling start tests. For instance, rolling at 30 mph and accelerating to 50 the Hurricane was no quicker than the V8 and was actually a tenth of a second slower in the 50-70 MPH test. In the 75-mph highway fuel-economy test, the smaller-displacement turbo-six won out, too. It achieved a result of 20 mpg to the V-8’s 19 mpg; not exactly a huge difference, but impressive considering the extra grunt the smaller engine also provides.

The addition of the inline-six has complicated the Waggoner’s powertrain lineup somewhat. The inline-six is standard on all long-wheelbase L versions, although the Wagoneer L has the 420-horsepower standard-output version and the Grand Wagoneer L has the 510-horsepower high-output version. Among short-wheelbase variants, the 3.0-liter six is optional, as the base Wagoneer continues with its standard 5.7-liter V-8 and the base Grand Wagoneer with its 6.4-liter V-8. But based on the new engine’s strong performance, it seems a worthy upgrade if you’re shopping for one of these behemoths. My question is there anyone at Jeep that is trying to shoehorn one of these bad boys into a Wrangler yet? If not, I might be available for some testing, …just saying.

I Blame The Parents

It’s not often I cast blame. Oh sure, I may say it’s your fault, but I won’t blame you. That’s entirely different. The parents of these two teens, however, I fully blame for what you’re about to hear. Two teens were injured in an accident just before 10:30 a.m. Tuesday in Buchanan  County Missouri. The State Patrol reported a 2005 Jeep driven by a 15-year-old St. Joseph, Missouri, the girl was southbound on Highway 371 at SE Barnett Road. The driver of the Jeep was fixing her hair and allowing the passenger to control the vehicle.  The 15-year-old female passenger lost control of the Jeep. The driver attempted to regain control of the vehicle, overcorrected and the Jeep traveled off the east side of the road, struck an embankment, and rolled onto its top. Both the driver and passenger were ejected. Buchanan County ambulance transported both teens to Mosaic Life Care in St. Joseph. They were not wearing seat belts, according to the MSHP. I’ve said for years that a Jeep should very rarely be the first vehicle for anyone. 

There are rare and few exceptions, but the rule of thumb is a Jeep is just too much for a new driver. Despite these parents not heading my warnings, they also clearly did not instill the fear of blood gore, and dismemberment by forcing these young new drivers to watch timeless classics such as “Wheels of Tragedy” … “Red Asphalt” or “Death On The Highway” Had the parents done their job, maybe these two girls would have buckled up. They still likely would have lost control and flipped the Jeep, but they might have instead walked away.

I Thought Drug Dealers Preferred Cadillacs 

Four people were taken into custody after drugs and guns were located in a parked vehicle. Detectives were working in the area of Hillside Avenue late Monday night when they spotted a parked Jeep with four people inside and smoke pouring from the windows. Authorities say the Jeep smelled strongly of marijuana and detectives were able to clearly see multiple pistols out in the open inside the vehicle. All of this is a no-no in Tennessee, so out came the cuffs. Two of the occupants were found to be convicted felons and a third was previously convicted of domestic violence, prohibiting them from possessing guns. Oops. As the four suspects were taken into custody, police searched the Jeep, and seized more than 100 meth pills laced with fentanyl, along with various amounts of cocaine, Xanax, and marijuana. The front-seat passenger, 31-year-old Justin Dunnigan, was found to be a convicted robber. Police say most of the drugs, along with two scales and more than $6,000 in cash, were found in a backpack at his feet. Dunnigan is facing multiple drug and gun counts and is being held on a $245,000 bond. The driver of the Jeep, 35-year-old Marques Felder, is facing a charge of felony gun possession. He was previously convicted of domestic assault in Nashville and is now being held on a $16,000 bond. Rear-seat passenger Samari Rutland is facing two counts of felony drug possession and having a gun during the commission of a felony. His bond is set at $81,000. The final passenger, 35-year-old Lakesha Jenkins, was previously convicted of assault in Sumner County and is now facing a charge of felony gun possession. Her bond is set at $15,000. The Jeep was impounded and the criminals were locked up. The moral of the story? Don’t be a drug dealer.

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TOPIC/QUESTION: Adding Compressed Air Tank(s) To Your Jeep

Last weekend I headed out to the Millican Valley OHV Trail System. This amazing area of central Oregon provides year-round riding for Class I, II, and III users and includes 255 miles of designated routes, nine staging areas, and three play areas. With an average of 300 days a year of sunshine, the trails there are dusty beyond belief. The best thing to combat a dusty offroad trip is not hermetically sealing yourself up in your Jeep like some instrument out of a doctor’s office drawer. No No. I got two words for ya, …on-board compressed air. Being able to blow off the dash, your face, clothes, or anything or any place you want. And let me tell you just how nice and refreshing a 120 psi blast of cold compressed air feels under the belt line on a hot dusty day. Yes, siree bub. Here’s the kick in the shorts though, I’m not going to help you pick a compressor, or tell you how to wire it up, nor am I here to tell you how to plumb it either. We can save all that for another Tech Talk. For now, we need to focus on the one thing not mentioned that makes it possible to do things like trail-side air filter cleaning. Sure a compressor will pump up a tire, and the dual compressors out there can actually move some CFM, but you really don’t get any kind of pressure, or (and this is the most important part) you don’t get any supply either. About all the volume you’ll get is how much air can be stored in the hose. So let’s get you a tank! Air compressor tanks are designed to hold and store a volume of compressed air at high pressures. Tanks are usually made of steel or aluminum and come in three common shapes. 

Spherical Tanks, which are, well, spheres. These typically run in the 1 to maybe 3-gallon size but are reserved (typically) for smaller volumes. Pancake Tanks look like two big salad bowls welded together at their lip. These typically run in the 3-gallon capacity and are usually good for at least 125 psi. Depending on your setup and ability to fabricate mounts, I’ve seen a pancake tank sitting inside the wheel of the spare tire. Lastly, we have the most common tank shape, and that’s the Cylinder Tank

These can range in size from 1.5 gallons up to tank sizes that would dwarf your Jeep. But for most vehicle applications, people opt for the 3 to 5-gallon size because of size and fitment. Cylinder tanks are good for high-pressure systems and have no problem holding pressures up to 175 psi in some cases. But not all tanks are rated for high pressure, so be careful in what you choose. All tanks will be equipped with at least a couple of ports on their ends or top side, and a drain port on their underside. Most tanks come with feet, or in some cases mounting brackets opening up the possibility for creative mounting solutions. Jeeps aren’t known for having a lot of extra room so finding a location to mount your tank is going to be one of the first things to consider. 

Once you have an idea of where you want your tank to be, you need to figure out just how much of a tank you can fit in that area. Typically in a Jeep like a Wrangler, Jeepers opt for one of three common mounting places, the roll bar, oftentimes finding room on the underside of one of the diagonal bars. Or usually, you’ll see a tank, or sometimes two tucked up next to the frame rails on the underside of the Jeep.

Of course, you could always just bolt it to the cargo floor, but that takes up valuable room for coolers of food and beer. If you do decide to mount your tank under the Jeep, you’ll likely want to keep the size to the 3 or 4-gallon cylinders. And I would narrow your search to aluminum tanks for the sake of keeping the rust away. These tanks rarely run more than 6 inches in diameter and are perfect for mounting up under a Jeep. Their small diameter size means they won’t protrude below the frame interfering with skid plates or rocks. You can fork out the big bucks for big recognizable names, but at the end of the trail, that tank will rarely be seen and will be covered in so much road grime, mud, and trail dirt, that nobody is going to be able to identify the manufacturer anyways. All you care about is size, rating, and price. The rest is the fun part. Figuring out which compressor you’re going to run, or if you already have one, then it’s time to figure out the plumbing. There are things that will be needed obviously, like the airline, pressure switches, safety valves, and of course quick disconnect ports for hooking up that airline and blow-off gun. 

 Adding an air tank to your Jeep is a lot easier and more affordable than you think.

All said and done, with every component, hose, fitting, and accessory (minus the compressor of course) you could easily get this done for under $300, and if you use some ingenuity, I bet you could do it for under $200. 4-gallon tank prices run on average about $130 give or take. 1-gallon tanks are as low as $40 making the possibility of a $100 system very real. But know this, the smaller the tank, the less volume of compressed air you will have, which means you may only be able to blow off your hat before having to wait for the tank to refill. 

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Episode 667 – Just Don’t Call It a Jeepster

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We Get First Look of Jeepster Interior

I’ve made a strong attempt over the years not to pull my punches. I tell it like it is, I piss people off, I’m brutally honest, and I don’t take any form of compensation to say one thing over another. My reviews have always been critically honest, and if I see B.S. I point it out. Since 2014 when we learned that Jeep’s parent company was forcing the brand to regurgitate an iconic name badge to put on an Italian designed sneaker shaped car and sell it as a Jeep Cherokee, I’ve been more than a little vocal over my disdain for these abortions of the auto industry receiving name plates of Yester year Jeeps with (in most cases) not a single design element paying homage to the vehicle that made that name what it is. The Cherokee, the Renegade, and the Wagoneer, just to name a few. Vehicles that in no way shape or form represent the heritage behind their names. It pisses me off to no end, and in the last few months, we’ve gotten word that Jeep is doing it again. This time with the Jeepster, and this time the blasphemy has gone too far. Look, when they first said Jeep was going to have electric offerings of its entire lineup by 2025 I didn’t say much. When Jeep said they were going to (most likely) be all-electric by 2030, I scoffed a bit. I’m not a huge fan of the hybrid Jeeps, and I think this latest move is a bridge too far. When Jeep said they were going to have an all-electric Jeep, and that it would be smaller than the renegade, I laughed. First off, why? And second, what are you going to call it? The renegade hasn’t been the success that Jeep hoped it would, even after countless celebrity endorsements. It’s the “tie a pork chop around its neck so the dog will play with it” scenario. Now we have the Jeepster. A micro-sub-compact Jeep that is anything but. First off, The Jeepster Commando was an automobile that was first produced by Kaiser Jeep in 1966 to compete with the International Scout, Toyota Land Cruiser, and Ford Bronco. What the hell is this iteration supposed to compete with, a Segway?  Four different models were available of the original Jeepster: a pickup truck, convertible, roadster, and wagon.

The Jeepster remained in production after American Motors Corporation (AMC) bought the Jeep line from Kaiser in 1970. After AMC’s acquisition, the Jeepster Commando C101 (101″ wheelbase) steadily grew in popularity. But in 1972, AMC shortened the vehicle’s name to Commando C104, extended the wheelbase to 104″, and changed the front-end design to accept the AMC I6 and 304ci V8, to be more like the Ford Bronco. Unfortunately, the new configuration, formerly an AMC best seller, quickly caused the line to drop in popularity, and because Jeep didn’t stick to its roots, the Jeepster Commando was taken out of production in 1973 and was replaced with the full-size Cherokee. That proved to be a good move, but Jeep is clearly repeating old mistakes. As the only configurations of this new Jeepster will be in engine offerings. Early rumors are there will be three. A fully electric version that we likely won’t see for a couple of years still, a hybrid, and the version that the spy photogs keep seeing, which has a traditional internal combustion engine. Another deviation from being a true Jeep is that this little wannabe is likely never going to have any form of four or even all-wheel drive, as the Peugeot chassis it’s built on doesn’t provide the room for that sort of drivetrain. These latest spy pics, courtesy of Autoblog, show the horrifically designed interior, which looks like it took design cues from the Tesla, miniaturized them, and took some creative license where they shouldn’t have. There is literally an open pocket that goes all the way from the right side of the steering column to the passenger door, and it’s big enough to fit a laptop bag into. There is an overly large linear array of vents just above that and then we have the actual horizontal plane of the dash pad itself, which is camouflaged by a series of mats and pillows to hide its true contours. The seats too have what appear to be seat covers made from Homer Simpsons underwear, and the center console is a plate of spaghetti with wires coming and going to all sorts of peripheral devices for data and telemetry recording. There is what appears to be a giant-sized Samsung galaxy in the middle of the dash as the main infotainment screen, and to the left of that is the instrument display which is unlit in these photos. The center console features a single horizontal row of small tab-like buttons for everything from defrosting and fan controls to a button that you use to access a menu for the fan…because controlling your fan with a button or knob is so 2017.

 

Adding complexity where none should be, thanks Jeep. Below all that there is again another large, gaping maw of a common pocket with USB and power ports. The steering wheel appears to be a smaller version of the kind you see in the arcade games, and it appears as if this so-not-a-Jeepster is controlled by a manual transmission. That’s a surefire way to get the hipsters to fall for this thing. Other than giving me something to make fun of and complain about, these new rounds of spy pics don’t do much for anyone I think. Literally, nobody familiar with the brand is looking forward to this regurgitated abortion, and it is likely only going to sell well in other countries where real Jeeps aren’t sold.

The Best Getaway Vehicle MIGHT BE a Jeep! 

A Warren Michigan police officer has a broken wrist and a concussion after a suspect allegedly rammed a patrol vehicle during a chase through multiple Metro Detroit communities over the weekend. Around 4 p.m. on Saturday, Aug. 20, Warren police officers were called to the 21400 block of Mac Arthur Boulevard for a report of someone possibly having a medical emergency in a blue Jeep Wrangler. Officers arrived on the scene and spoke with a man who (what is this?) ….appeared to be under the influence of narcotics! What the hell you say! The man refused to exit the Jeep and instead, started the Jeep and fled from the scene, quickly ditching the officers. Unlike the poor decision-making skills of the Jeep driving crackhead, the officers were quickly able to catch up to the fleeing druggy and initiated a traffic stop. Do ya think the guy pulled over once he saw the blue and red flashing lights? (yea, I wouldn’t have thought so either) ….and he didn’t disappoint. The drug-addled brain of the Jeep driver thought it would be a good idea to then speed recklessly through residential areas until he reached 8 Mile Road.

Once on a more arterial road, speeds increased further, and the Jeep began traveling westbound, sometimes using the eastbound lanes to do so. Oddly enough officers did not call off the pursuit, and in the area of Sherwood Avenue and 8 Mile, the suspect allegedly intentionally rammed a police vehicle, causing injuries to the officer inside.

Despite the speeds involved and the severity of the crash, the Jeep remained running and driveable. We’ve now heard no less than three stories of a criminal using a Jeep as a battering ram and utterly destroying cop cars in the process, all while remaining functional. If that’s not an attesting to the strength and resilience of a Jeep I don’t know what is. The suspect, in this chase, continued to flee until his driving skills were eclipsed by his stupidity and the euphoria that only a fresh blast of crack cocaine can provide, and he crashed the Jeep in a residential area of Detroit. Obviously, the suspect was taken into police custody. Incredibly, despite the multiple crashes, he was not injured. 

Officers discovered meth, heroin, and fentanyl in the suspect’s vehicle, which was of course stolen. Here is where things go south for me and pisses me off to no end. Despite wreckless or at least negligent driving, excessive speeds, fleeing from officers, resisting arrest, impeding an investigation, drug possession, vehicular assault on an officer of the law, possession of a stolen vehicle, and god knows what else, any sane, normal, law-abiding person would think that this dude is going to be behind bars for a long, long time. Well, in this day and age where DAs are hand-picked and paid off to NOT prosecute crimes, we have crackhead, meth-addicted, fentanyl selling, Jeep stealing deadbeats like this back out on the streets in no time. He was arraigned and released, despite having previous convictions for property crimes, theft, and domestic violence. Pillar of the community huh? The next court date is scheduled for Sept. 6th… now what do you think the chances are he’ll show up?… I’m thinking somewhere between slim and none. 

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TOPIC/QUESTION: Wiring Tips and Tricks – Connections

Just like any other major system on a vehicle, wiring can make or break your build. If you do it right, the entire electrical system is something that virtually disappears in a vehicle, never to be seen or thought about again. On the other hand, if you cut corners, rush it, or tackle something beyond your skill set, it’s likely that you will have done it wrong and you’ll be chasing gremlins, nonfunctioning gear, popped fuses, and yes, possibly even fires. Some of the things wiring does are not easily understood to many people… which may be why there are so many Jeepers out there who would rather get stabbed in the crotch with a rusty railroad spike than mess with wiring. But the truth is that automotive wiring really isn’t all that scary once you get an understanding of a few basic principles. Now I’m not going to begin a lesson on polarity, electron flow, or circuit layout, or start outlining the equations behind OHM’s Law. That’s going to be beyond boring for 98 percent of you out there, so let’s stick to some rules of thumb, and some helpful tips that may just be enough to get you over that fear of wiring something up on your own Jeep. Even if you don’t take the time to learn the more technical stuff, like electron flow, relay configuration, or how to calculate the load on a circuit, you can still be a competent wiring person by following a few basic rules. Now, I am a professionally trained electrician… of sorts. I’m not licensed to wire your house, but I hold what is basically one step below a master’s degree in mobile electronics. After doing this stuff for more than half my life I can honestly say that if you spend some time with some crimpers and a test light under the hood, you’ll learn something new just about every time you do something electrical-related. Whether it’s tackling a small lighting project, or if you’re ready to do a full bumper-to-bumper rewire job, chances are, you’ll pick up something new along the way. Despite being professionally trained, and has multiple certifications, a lot of what I’ve learned has come from trial and error along with good old-fashioned experience. And of course, as with most things in life, nothing beats experience. So what I’m going to try and do here, is really more about making your wiring projects easier, cleaner, and more reliable. Some of this stuff may be basic or even familiar to you, but I’m willing to bet you’ll be able to pick up a trick or two to help make your own wiring projects go a little smoother. Most wiring problems are the result of a poor connection, whether it’s within a plug, a connector, or a splice that was made who knows where or when. And don’t forget to check your grounds! That’s like the Jeep Electrical Credo right there unto itself! If you’re lucky, a bad connection will just break the flow of electricity and whatever it’s feeding will stop working. Worse are the bad connections that restrict electrical flow but don’t stop it. Restrictions mean resistance, and resistance equals heat. Enough heat equals fire, even on a circuit that’s protected by a fuse. If you understand nothing else about electricity, understand that good connections are critically important to a safe and reliable circuit or a safe and reliably running component. Ok, so to that end, let’s get into how we make these connections when doing something like installing a stereo or hooking up a new set of lights. There are two schools of thought when it comes to electrical connections. Solder or Crimp? Soldered connections offer excellent conductivity, so there’s no resistance to electrical flow.

There is a chemical connection that happens in a soldered wire joint. However, soldered connections can be work-hardened (meaning they become brittle due to the heat used to solder them) and break when subjected to extended periods of vibration. Something that is in abundance on a Jeep, especially one that sees any trail time. 

But the biggest thing that gets in people’s way is that soldered connections are more labor-intensive. Soldering 10 connections will take you at least three or four times as long or more than basic crimping. This is why some wiring guys stay away from soldering altogether. Crimp connections involve mechanically locking wires together inside a metal barrel. A properly crimped connection is more or less impervious to vibration but can offer less conductivity in some cases. Therefore, a crimped connection introduces more opportunities for resistance and voltage drop in sensitive circuits. So why not have the best of both connection types?

This is going way over the top, and obviously is going to be the most labor-intensive (or time-consuming) electrical connection type. Starting with an uninsulated terminal or butt connector, which is available online or at most hardware stores, but not as often at auto part stores… Strip and crimp the wires like you normally would, and then apply solder to both ends of the barrel. Slide some adhesive-lined shrink tubing over the connection, and apply heat to shrink it. This method supplies the strength of a crimped connection with the superior conductivity of a soldered connection, and with the right shrink wrap, can be made 100% weatherproof too. Like I said this is extremely labor intensive and is overkill for anything outside of let’s say wiring a trailer.

If you’re wiring something with multiple connections in the same area, such as a pigtail for a relay or a headlight, or in the event you are trying to repair a harness that had a cut or break in several of the wires in one place…. whenever possible stagger the connections. 

If you put all of the connectors in the same place you end up with an unsightly bulge in the harness and a greater likelihood of shorts. Staggering the connections makes it easier to wrap the harness and just looks better. It’s a pretty safe bet that a 4×4 is going to see mud and water, and an open rig like a topless Jeep can count on seeing mud and water everywhere. Water is bad for wiring for many reasons, so it’s a really good idea to use weatherproof connectors whenever possible. 

Deutsch or Weather Pack connectors are a great choice when making your own harness or want to wire in a circuit to something that may get removed at some point in the future. Think of a light bar attached to a hard top, or making your own door harnesses. These DIY weatherproof wiring kits come in all sorts of circuit sizes from single wire to 8 or more. If that’s a little too extensive for you then look for shrink tubing that comes with an adhesive inside that flows out to the wire insulation when heated, sealing the connection from the elements. They even make crimp connectors that offer something similar. Note that anything weatherproof like this is going to come with a premium price tag compared to its regular alternative. When in doubt, it’s hard to go wrong with anything marine grade. Marine Grade and weatherproof stuff is going to be a bit more expensive, but it’s always worth it in the long run. Ok, so now you’re a master of connections, now what about wire management? That my Jeeper friend will be the topic of the next installment of Tech Talk. 

This Thursday’s Interview – Ep 669 Barak Zitron https://www.modloutdoors.com/ “The Lego of the water bottle world”

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Episode 651 – Don’t Use This Lube On Your Jeep

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Toledo Jeep  Fest Is Near!

It’s a sure sign of summer in the Glass City of Toledo Ohio. The Toledo Jeep Fest is about to begin. The annual event draws tens of thousands to the region, and there’s always something new to see and do. Jeeps have been rolling off the assembly lines in Toledo for more than 80 years, and the city Jeep was born in will celebrate all things Jeep the second week of August. The streets of downtown Toledo will be completely taken over by Jeeps and Jeepers alike. Every block will provide a beautiful backdrop for the 2022 edition of Toledo Jeep Fest. And this year the theme is red, white, and blue. Doesn’t get any more American than that. About 70,000 people are expected to roll into town this year, hailing from more than 30 states and even a few foreign countries. And all that Jeeper traffic will drive millions of dollars into local business. Over 6.5 million last year alone! The weekend-long event is the perfect way to honor the men and women at the Toledo Assembly Complex and the world-famous vehicle they continue to build.

Toledo Jeep Fest opens up on August 12th and runs through the 14th. If you can make it there, it will be worth the trip. 

Hello Bridge… Meet a Brand New Jeep Wagoneer.

Jeep Wagoneers at this point I think are being made to order. With a price tag that can reach nearly 100K (and well over that for the Grand Wagoneer)… there aren’t dozens of these sitting on dealer lots right now. Especially since there is still a chip shortage and supply chain issues. Waiting for your brand new Jeep to be delivered can be a painful experience, especially when you learn that the Jeep you have already waited weeks for, was completely destroyed while in transit. Although rare, these things can and do happen. A case in point is this week’s viral Jeep story where this unlucky Jeep Wagoneer encountered a bridge in Detroit. Truck drivers are supposed to know exactly how high their rigs are. This information must be carefully matched with the clearance data marked on every bridge they might come across. When the bridge is higher, everything goes smoothly, but when it’s the opposite, the results can be disastrous. But the truck’s height isn’t always a given and, depending on what it carries and how much gas it has, the load height can change. This is a harsh lesson for a truck driver transporting brand new Jeeps to their customers. While passing under a bridge on the I-375 in Detroit, one unlucky Jeep Wagoneer on the upper platform was sitting a little too proud and clipped a bridge as the truck drove under. The maximum allowed height marked on the bridge is 14.33 feet, and as you can see in the pictures that are going viral right now, (we’ll of course have some to see in the show notes for this episode at Jeeptalkshow.com)….  that the total height of the truck plus the Wagoneer, was just a wee bit too high to travel safely under this bridge. The impact was so powerful (since the truck was traveling AT SPEED) that the Jeep was ripped from the carrier and was wedged, VERTICALLY, under the bridge. The Jeep Wagoneer looks as if a bomb exploded inside, with all the glass broken and hardly a square inch of sheet metal on its body. Its roof was also ripped off, and I mean ripped clean off.

Not that it matters, considering this Jeep is a total wreck, and likely a total loss too. It’s already troublesome with all the wait times for a new vehicle, but having your brand new Jeep completely destroyed right before you could drive it home is just beyond words. Just imagine a new waiting counter starting to tick from the moment this happens, which adds more delays to the already excruciatingly long delivery time. And it’s not like these unexpected problems are easy to deal with. The question arises who’s insurance is going to pick up the tab for this one? AND… will there be a ban on Wagoneers on the top decks of auto carriers now? 

Potential Recall For Jeep Compass and Patriot SUVs

Just after last week’s announcement of the NHTSA probe into the Jeep Cherokee for its potential issues surrounding the E-brake and a faulty module, we get word that the NHTSA is opening a second probe into Jeep. This probe covers some 289,000 Jeep Compass and Patriot SUVs from 2016 due to 127 complaints about engine stalling due to crankshaft or camshaft sensor problems. The agency says FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles – Jeep’s parent company at the time) did a recall in 2016 for a similar problem. It’s looking to see if the problem is happening with vehicles not included in the recall. So far this has not yet been moved into recall status yet and is at the “preliminary evaluation” stage right now. That of course can change in a day, so if you or someone you know has a 2016 Compass or Patriot, direct them to this episode, they can also check the NHTSA recalls website for updates – https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

Tech Talk with Jeep Talk

TOPIC/QUESTION: Lubricants, Lock Tite, and Anti-Seize… OH MY!

There’s a time and place to use certain lubricants and such on your Jeep. And no, a single can of WD-40 isn’t going to cut it for every application. Or most applications actually. In this segment, I’m going to go over some of the types of lubricants and other things you should be using when you work on your Jeep. Now obviously we’re going to steer the conversation away from things like diff fluids, engine oils, shock oil, etc. as those don’t really apply to things like nuts and bolts. There are all types of greases and oils that all work similarly, but differently. Some are designed to work better in very cold environments, while others are meant to withstand great pressures, high temps, or very dirty environments. Clearly just in the grease department, there can be the wrong type of lubricant to use at a certain time or place. For things like door hinges on your Jeep, or seat rails Jeepers may be tempted to use that aforementioned WD-40, but there’s something better and more appropriate to use here. White lithium grease in either spray or squeeze form is the best option here. It stays put even under high heat or extreme cold, and can even be used preventatively to protect against rust and corrosion. It withstands vibration and because of how thick it is, it performs better as a lubricant in many applications than plain ole WD-40. WD-40 has its purposes, and would also work in many cases, but it will run, it will drip, and it will eventually break down over time faster and provide less protection and lubrication than white lithium. Now with that said, there are places where you shouldn’t use white lithium too. It’s not the poster child for Jeep lubes here. You wouldn’t pack a wheel bearing with white lithium nor would you use it for lubricating polyurethane bushings in your steering or suspension either.

And seriously… don’t be THAT Jeeper, whose every single bushing sounds like the overused bed springs of a seedy pay-by-the-hour hotel. For the critical joints of our Jeeps that use polyurethane bushings, there is only one specific type of grease you should use to insure long bushing life, and squeak-free performance, and it’s not WD-40. For anything poly, you’ll want to use silicone-based, synthetic, waterproof grease. The same goes for the soft top zippers. Petroleum-based lubricants tend to speed up rubber and plastic components’ decay, so you don’t want to use them on or near anything plastic based. When we’re talking plain old metal to metal here, like a tie-rod end, or heim, or any non-poly component that has a grease zerk. This requires a grease gun, and what you put in it matters. That ol farm grease may work. The red-and-tacky is a good go-to as well. You can splurge on something like Royal Purple or stick with the value of the store brand. In the end, you want to make sure you’re using the right kind of lubrication for the right application, so make sure you’re lubricating the joints on your Jeep with the right stuff. For instance, Currie Enterprises recommends using moly-based grease to lubricate their johnny joints. Probably not the best choice for your Rough Country joints. For instance, anti-seize isn’t the best thing to use to lube your soft top zipper or hood hinge with, but it is good for spark plug threads, and any fastener that frequently gets removed, like the nut on the spare tire or Hi-Lift mount. It’s also great to prevent galling. Galling happens when two different metals come in contact with each other under load or in high friction. Because of the two different metallurgic properties, the metals will seize up, and can actually cold weld themselves together in extreme conditions. This is common on Jeeps when the threads of one metal come in contact with the threads of another metal. Think stainless steel bolt in aluminum threads or other combinations. A little anti-seize on the threads, and galling is of no concern. 

Now let’s say you don’t want something to EVER come apart once you bolt it together.

I’m thinking of things like bumper bolts here. High vibration, serious loads, the last thing you want is for fasteners to start backing their way out or off. Think of how much it would suck to have your skid plates wobbling around. But you can’t very well permanently mount them to the Jeep. You may need to remove them for a transmission or transfer case service or some other reason. As with lubrication, there are different types of thread lockers out there that work in different ways. The LOCTITE brand of thread lockers is the go-to brand, and although there are other brands, they all stick to an industry standard of color codes. For example, let’s say once mounted, that bumper on your Jeep is never coming off. In that case, you’ll want to use a RED thread locker.

You’ll break those nuts and bolts before they ever come off again. But let’s say you want certain things like suspension fasteners, control arm bolts, or skid plate bolts to stay put, but still, be removable down the road in case you need to replace or upgrade something.

In that case, the BLUE thread locker is what you’d reach for. This will keep the fasteners together at torque, but will also take more than that torque to break them loose. It won’t be easy, but they will break loose. So make sure the grade of your fastener matches the grade of your thread locker. Ok, I debated on whether or not to include this next part, but I thought what the hell? What’s the worst that can happen with a little red-neck engineering? Let’s say your miles and miles away from the nearest auto parts or hardware store, or maybe you’re just way over the legal limit, in any case, you’re in a position where you need a thread locker or penetrating lubricant and you don’t have it.

Well, I’m here to tell you the hacks that can help you make your own. Ok so you want to make your own anti-seize, well, that’s probably not going to happen. Straight out of the tube or bottle, anti-seize is made up of a high-quality grease base and lubricating solids like copper, lead, graphite, aluminum, calcium oxide, etc.), which are suspended in the grease. You’re not going to be able to duplicate this with any reliable results, so may the maker beware. However, for a low-cost, do-it-yourself competitor with WD-40 lubricating spray: use a mix of Vegetable oil and acetone. A mixture of vegetable oil with 10 percent acetone works just as well as WD-40 to free rusted bolts. And it costs about one-tenth of the price. Add more acetone, up to 30 percent, and the mixture works even better than WD-40 and still costs about one-quarter the price. 

Acetone, by the way, is the active ingredient in nail polish remover and some paint thinners, and DIY mixtures with transmission fluid can be used as a penetrating oil too! Mix that same acetone at a 30% level with new or used transmission fluid (so long as it’s not completely brown and burnt) and you’ve got a homemade penetrating oil that works damn near as good as the commercial stuff. Ok so what about the reverse of this? Can you make homemade Loctite? You sure can, however, it’s not going to be quite as good as the commercial stuff, but it will hold a fastener under load. Two different products will work as an alternative to Loctite and other brands of thread lockers., and that’s super glue or nail polish. These two very common household products are often used as effective replacements for dedicated thread lockers. Using these two products can indeed lock a fastener in place in the short term, but they don’t hold up to extreme conditions, intense vibration, or high torque applications like the brand name stuff. In the end, however, it may get you home, or down the trail.

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

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Episode 647 – Increase Your Jeep’s MPG

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America’s Most Wanted!…. JEEP!

We have another win for the Jeep Wrangler to celebrate. Reports show that used Jeep Wranglers are the most popular option out of every single other used vehicle. According to a study by Compare the Market, used Jeep Wrangler models have the highest demand in the used vehicle market. More drivers search for a used Jeep Wrangler than any other model. It’s true and we’ve got the numbers to prove it. 

Used Wrangler models had about 760,940 annual searches, while the Toyota Tacoma landed in a very dismal and distant second place with only 504,490 annual searches. 

Reportedly, the Wrangler is popular because it’s one of the most iconic vehicles of modern times with unmatched four-wheel drive rugged capabilities and long-lasting durability. Critics can’t explain the disparity, and the other automaker fanboys are already crying for a recount, but it’s not rocket science why there’s this big uptick in people wanting Jeeps. It’s the Jeep Talk Show. We’re THAT big people. Yeah. That just happened. Ok so maybe it’s something more practical like how the Wrangler is a direct descendent from the World War II Jeep. While the Wrangler is the obvious off-roading choice, it’s a good daily driver for most people as well. And with the proper care and regular maintenance, Wranglers can easily surpass 300k miles. Ok so maybe the world-famous Jeep Talk Show didn’t have as much to do with the numbers as I think, but that’s my line I’m gonna take and I’m stickin to it. 

Jeep Racing

If you get to know me, you’ll know I really like the skinny pedal. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a firm believer in time and place, and when you’re bouncing on your rear axle, that’s not the time nor place for skinny pedal, but I digress. Off Road racing has always been a draw for me, I swear I missed my calling there. Although I don’t have the time, means, and especially money to take on this amazing sport, you best believe if I did, it would be Jeepspeed. The Jeepspeed series is the most fun racing series, it’s cost-effective, and it’s worthwhile for grassroots drivers. You don’t need to be a millionaire to race Jeepspeed. Most teams build their own vehicles and have pit crews made up of family and friends. When a team needs help, its competitors pitch in to fill the void. The camaraderie is unlike any other racing series. It’s no wonder that the Yokohama Jeepspeed series is the longest-running spec racing series in off-road racing. If you’re interested in this kind of stuff, and trust me, It. Is. a. Blast! The 2022 Yokohama Tire Jeepspeed Race Series presented by KMC Wheels brings to you the “Vegas to Reno” Jeepspeed Challenge. It’s the longest off-road race in the US and it’s coming up soon.

August 10-13, 2022 – Reno, NV https://www.jeepspeed.com/

This Woman Is Trying To Electrify a Jeep Wrangler TJ

Veronika Wright grew up in Austria watching the American TV show “The Gilmore Girls” and dreaming of driving a tan Jeep Wrangler, like one of the girls…who was named Gilmore did… in the show… apparently. Now Veronika Wright lives in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and is the proud owner of her dream vehicle, a tan Jeep Wrangler TJ. But she’s working to make it better (some would argue just different) than the one on the TV show. She and her husband are converting the Jeep to run on electricity. Wright has a Ph.D. in physics and used to work as a battery simulation engineer. “This really was a lot of fun, and I got very, very passionate about batteries,” she says. She wanted to apply her technical knowledge to a hands-on project and share her enthusiasm for electric vehicles. So she created a YouTube channel where viewers can follow each step she takes to electrify the Jeep. 

She hopes sharing the costs and challenges of this Jeep project gets more people excited about going electric. And when the project is done, Wright hopes to surprise people when she pulls over to charge up her Jeep Wrangler. In her own words:

“I am looking forward to pulling up to a charging station and then people will be like, ‘What is this girl doing here, thinking she can – this is not a gas station,’ you know, and

having these moments where you then just charge it there. “I think this will be a lot of fun.” On her website, she lists herself as a content creator, and I can see the kind of trolling-like content she’s going after. Oh, those poor greenies won’t see it coming!

Tech Talk with Jeep Talk

TOPIC/QUESTION: Getting The Most MPGs

Well with record high gas prices I figured it may not hurt to go over a few tips and tricks to get the most MPG out of your Jeep. When we’re talking fuel economy and Wranglers, it’s a bit like going to the tire shop for an oil change. Sure they can probably do it, but that’s not what the store is known for or how they make their money. Most people that own a Jeep (or more than one, I’m not judging) aren’t too concerned about fuel efficiency because the fact of the matter is, fuel efficiency, due to a variety of factors, is just not a focal point for people who own Jeeps. That said, there are some tips and tricks Jeepers can apply to add a few more miles in between fill-ups. I’m going, to be honest, here, there’s no magic pill here, there isn’t just one thing that improves the mileage of a Jeep significantly, I mean a cow is more aerodynamic than a Wrangler after all. Now, for higher mileage Jeeps, upgrading the fuel injectors can help to yield better fuel economy. This goes double for any Jeep with an inline six. 

The venerable 4.0L came from the factory with stock fuel injectors that only have a single hole.

Upgrading the fuel injectors (particularly those with four holes) will enhance the atomization of the fuel inside the combustion chamber. The result is slightly better horsepower and improved fuel economy. We’re talking a gain of maybe 1 to 2 MPG’s here though. Another option would be to upgrade the ECU tune by modifying or changing the engine timing, automatic shift points, the air/fuel ratio, and other parameters that could increase efficiency. The only way to do this however is by using an aftermarket tuner. With these, you can modify the horsepower, torque, and other things to improve fuel economy. This is especially true if you’ve bolted on a couple of go-fast engine mods to your Jeep. Modifying the CPU tuning will allow the mods to unleash the full potential of your Jeep. Depending on what mods you’ve done, the unlocked MPGs could surprise you. 

Now Jeepers, let’s talk about overcompensation. And it has nothing to do with what’s in your pants. Those who drive a 2007 to 2018 Jeep are familiar with the laggy throttle response. This is caused by a delay in the drive-by-wire throttle pedal. Stepping on the gas will send a signal from the pedal to the ECU. The ECU will then send the signal to the throttle body. Those two steps are responsible for the perceivable delay in throttle inputs since electrons can only travel so fast down a wire. To compensate for this delay, (and to keep you from overcompensating by pressing on the gas more than you should) you need to install a throttle response controller. Modules like the Pedal Commander will eliminate the pedal delay, improve acceleration, and consequently can yield better fuel economy numbers. 

Again, we’re talking a gain of just 1 to 2 MPG’s here, but it all adds up. Now, Jeeps need to breathe, and the stock air intake system in your Jeep is certainly adequate for daily driving. But there are weaknesses in the OEM system. The main one is the paper filter, followed by known restrictions in the intake ducting for noise dampening. Paper filters use surface filtration and definitely clog up faster than depth-based cotton filters will.

Thus staying on top of air filter maintenance regardless of your filter is important in order to preserve regular fuel economy. So clean or swap out your filter often. For those who are looking to get a slight improvement in performance and possible fuel economy as well, consider an aftermarket intake with a depth-based high flow filter. These types of systems further reduce any restrictions in the intake tract and filter and ease the effort necessary for the engine to breathe better easily adding 1 to 3 MPGs. A simple cat-back aftermarket exhaust system can also free up some downstream restrictions in the engine’s ability to breathe. These kits provide better flow, added performance, and typically a better sound as well, all while adding to the efficiency of the engine. Some kits can give you as much as 3 to 4 MPGs. There’s no doubt that Jeeps, lift kits, and aggressive tires go hand-in-hand. And while these mods will improve the rugged looks and off-road capabilities of your Jeep, they will also contribute to poor fuel economy.

If you’re really concerned about fuel economy, look into getting a second set of wheels and tires. I know it sounds dumb and may be more work than it’s worth for many, but having a set of skinnier highway-terrain (or H/T) tires you can roll on in between wheeling trips will add several miles back to each gallon. Highway tires will have a lower rolling resistance due to their streamlined tread profile than mud or even all-terrains. They’re also typically lighter, reducing the amount of unsprung weight the Jeep has to push down the road. On average, mud terrain tires can cost you a good 5-7 percent loss in mileage. And the bigger you go, the more that goes up. Swapping back to the meaty tires only takes 15 maybe 20 min at most, and you’re back in action. Depending on how much you drive, and how much you spend on the wheels and tires, the savings have the potential to pay for themselves in the first year, but certainly within the life of the highway tires. Now the last tip I’m going to give you is going to require the least amount of tools, and in fact, doesn’t have anything to do with your Jeep. This modification is a bit introspective and will require a shift in driving habits actually. And trust me, this is not a fun or easy shift. Realistically speaking, this is the most effective method to return the best possible fuel mileage. Again, just due to the size, shape, and intended off-road purpose of most Jeeps, fuel economy is really a bit of an oxymoron. If your Jeep is equipped with a manual tranny, try to shift as early as possible to get better fuel mileage. For anyJeep, and every driver, careful throttle application is the biggest factor in achieving the best possible mileage. In other words, take all the fun out of it.  If you drive like a grandma with a wedding cake in the back, you’ll be off to a…slow, but a good start. If all these things are put into use, and every modification made, you can add as much as 10 to 12 MPGs to your fuel economy. Is it worth it? I’ll let you decide. 

2021 Jeep Talk Show Gladiator

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

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Episode 627 – Are Your Nuts Tight?

This Week In Jeep

In Case You Just Want To Be Different

One of the things that makes Jeeps so awesome is their ability to be customized to the Nth degree. A multi-billion-dollar-a-year industry sees to that. And we all want our Jeeps to be our own. Who can blame us? Well if being the one kid on the block that has the most different Jeep is the most important to you, then maybe you might want to consider grabbing a Right Hand Drive 2022 Wrangler. Yup, that’s right, you can buy a right-hand-drive Wrangler in the modern era. While this new Jeep SUV is made for the United States Postal Service and other delivery truck needs, it is possible to buy one. So, why is that? Jeep understands that some drivers require a 4×4 SUV that features the steering wheel on the opposite side that you would expect, but this Wrangler model does have its limits. First off, it is available “only” with the turbodiesel engine and only features the eight-speed automatic transmission. That’s it, no options. No V6, No 4xe. 

The only option you DO have, (and I haven’t been able to ascertain whether or not they just give this to you or it comes standard on the RHD variant,) is something called the cold-weather package. This package adds things like heated seats, a heated steering wheel, and a remote start. This means even when the temperature outside drops, you can still stay warm. Outside of that, this version of the Wrangler is fairly basic. It will still feature four doors and can come with a variety of paint options, but do not expect to get an RHD Wrangler with the latest tech features. Like NO U-Connect. Hell, I think my 99 XJ had a better stereo in it than what this thing comes with. If you were wondering why you would want to buy a Jeep Wrangler with a right-hand drive configuration, the answer is quite simple. You are probably someone who needs to deliver mail or various packages in a very rural area. This feature allows drivers to easily reach mailboxes without having to exit the vehicle or enter into traffic. Which is a callback to the iconic Jeep DJ mail truck. The United States Postal Service does not currently employ a fleet of Jeep mail trucks. While it did in the past, those Jeep DJ models were replaced by the Grumman LLV delivery vehicle. But for some rural mail carriers, the capability of a Jeep is still required. Hence why FCA still offers a right-hand-drive version of the Wrangler. Now, if you are looking to buy a new Jeep Wrangler and do not need to deliver packages, you probably should not buy this version of the Wrangler. The United States has an infrastructure that is based on driver’s steering from the left side. That said, it is still fun that Jeep builds an RHD Wrangler, and that average citizens can get one if they want.

Just  What The Hell Is Going On In Minnesota?

Searching around for news-worthy Jeep-related headlines I usually stumble across some stories that leave me shaking my head. Some I deem worthy enough to share with you, and others are honestly just pretty stupid. But when I see two, crazy unique stories coming out of the same area, I have to dig a little deeper. Which I did, and I still have no idea just what the hell is going on in Minnesota. A Springfield woman was injured when her Jeep struck a safe that fell from a vehicle in Cottonwood County. The state patrol says it happened on Highway 60 near County Road 44 in Bingham Lake at 7:44 a.m. Monday. A pickup driven by 36-year-old Cynthia Knutson of Bingham Lake turned from 44 onto Highway 60, and a safe fell out of the back of the truck and onto the highway. 20-year-old Mya Mickelson of Springfield was driving her Jeep westbound on 60 and hit the safe at speed. Mickelson was taken to the Windom Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Less than 50 miles straight north from there, a Redwood Falls man was shaken up after his Jeep hit some cows about 4 miles southeast of Redwood Falls. The sheriff’s department says 34-year-old Matthew Gehrke was traveling on County Road 1 near 300th Street at 11:31 last night when he hit 3 cows standing in the roadway. Gehrke was slightly injured and was checked out at the scene by ambulance staff. The Sheriff’s Office was unable to locate the owners of the cows.

It’s Even Uglier Than We Expected

I will be the first to admit that I’ve talked a lot of crap on this show over the decade-plus we’ve been doing it. I don’t pull punches. I give honest reviews, tell it like it is, and I haven’t ever given a rat bastard’s ass if your feelings get hurt in the process. Getting you the right information is more important to me than how it makes you feel. That said, it’s well known what my opinions are of Jeep going electric. Just last week in Episode 623, we learned just how NOT Jeep this Jeep is really going to be. This week, a new batch of spy shots has captured a compact crossover that will wear the Jeep badge when it debuts. The spy pics show the crossover wearing a full-body camouflage wrap, with the grille, headlights, and even the rear side windows covered. The crossover looks to have an odd stance with what appear to be larger wheels and tires in the rear, which are accentuated by the short overhangs. In other words, it just doesn’t work visually. The rear is just as covered like the front, with the taillights also hidden from view. This smaller-than-a-Renegade, bite-sized Jeep wannabe, will slot below the Renegade in Jeep’s lineup in both features and cost, which will likely limit its availability, and interest from people familiar with the brand. As we stated last week, this “jeep” will actually be based on a Peugeot-Citroen chassis, and feature absolutely no four or all-wheel drive availability of any kind in its current design. This week we also find there is an insult to injury. Jeep isn’t even building the damn things… Instead, they will make them in France, and these new micro-jeeps will roll off the assembly line in Poland alongside the upcoming Alfa Romeo Brennero and the Fiat 500X. The polish is making Jeeps now, what could possibly go wrong?!?! The only saving grace is that we may not see this poor excuse for a Jeep vehicle here in the US right away. With Jeep’s electrification plans ramping up in the UK, here in the US we’re not even close to being ready. So the production focus may be on the market in which they’re made, and won’t be imported here for a couple more years still. Or so we can hope.

Tech Talk with Jeep Talk

TOPIC/QUESTION: Torquing To Spec – And Why It’s Important

At one point in time, your Jeep was brand new, and when it rolled off the factory assembly line, every single nut and bolt of the steering, drivetrain, suspension, and, well, pretty much everywhere else, were torqued to a specific manufacturer’s specification. WHY this is important is because if the bolts were not tight enough they could fall out. If the bolts were over-tightened they could stretch, get stuck in the hole, snap, or pull the threads out. During routine maintenance and after doing any kind of modification to your steering, suspension, or drivetrain, all bolts and nuts should be checked to ensure that they have been tightened to specification. In fact, virtually every lift kit’s instructions tell you to recheck torque after driving 500 miles. A good example of WHEN you should make sure that you have all your Jeep’s fasteners torqued to spec, is after installing something like a lift kit. When a lift kit is installed, many components may need to be replaced or temporarily removed, upon reinstallation these parts must be properly torqued down. With the vibrations and impacts that Jeeps experience both on and off-road, improperly torqued bolts could easily be shaken loose and then run the risk of causing the component to fall off. Trust me, you don’t want something like your track bar bracket suddenly falling off the frame. Another great example of this (that is a bit more common) would be your wheels. The wheels on any Jeep need to be torqued to spec, and every Jeep is different.

For instance, from the Renix days of the Cherokees to the 97-01 XJ’s to the new Cherokee KL, they all have different torque specs for the wheels…. Which also happens to be something else you don’t want falling off the Jeep. So WHAT do you use to ensure that you’re torquing to spec and not just setting everything at the universal German-based form of measurement …”gutentight”…? You use something called a torque wrench, and it will be the most expensive socket wrench you’ve ever purchased. 

A torque wrench is a precision tool that is used to apply the correct amount of torque to the nut or bolt that is being tightened. There are several types of torque wrenches including a beam type, click type, digital, and dial type. HOW they work depends on the style that you have. They all have their own way of letting the user know how much torque is being applied to the fastener as it is being tightened down.

With the beam and dial gauge styles, there is a sweeping arrow or needle that points to a number. The harder you tighten something down, the more the needle moves to the higher numbers. For the click or digital versions, the user sets the tool to a specific number, usually measured in inch or foot-pounds, and when that amount of torque is applied, a click is both heard and felt, or in the case of the digital torque wrench, it beeps at you. Torque wrenches are pretty easy to use, are an invaluable tool in the garage, and a must-have necessity when working on the suspension or steering of any Jeep. They also all come with different price tags and learning curves. 

That being said, here’s the most important rule of thumb…

Any torque wrench is better than no torque wrench

So look in your local pawn shops, Facebook marketplace, garage sales, and even craigslist to find a good deal on a previously owned quality torque wrench. If all else fails, turn to the interwebs, or your local harbor freight. And in order to find the right  torque specifications for your Jeep you can look either in the factory service manual for your Jeep (you DO have an FSM for your Jeep don’t you?) Typically even Chilton and Haynes manuals will have a page or two dedicated to torque specs as well. But if not, there are multiple websites out there that have this information as well, just make sure you look at at least two different sources to verify that you have the right information. At the end of the day, torquing to spec may require a specialty tool like a torque wrench and of course more time to set and dial everything in. But it’s worth it in the long run. A less squeaky Jeep, bolts or studs that don’t break and that can be relied on, wheels that don’t fall off, and maintenance that goes more smoothly each and every time. 

Jeep Life – With Jeep Momma

Trail Rated 4×4 Badge

https://www.jeep.com/trail-rated.html

The Jeep brand is like no other out there. Jeep’s core values are freedom, adventure, authenticity, and passion. As Jeep owners throughout history, we have learned that Go Anywhere, Do Anything is more than just a slogan – for Jeepers it’s our way of life. I have embraced that way of life and it has changed me. I have experienced amazing adventures, met some of the greatest people who are now my lifelong friends, and found my passion in all things Jeep. Those core values are a reflection of myself and so many Jeepers around the world. Some are lucky enough to discover Jeep early in their life. It’s a connection like no other. The Jeep Brand has embodied those four core values into the DNA of Every Jeep they make. Not just the Wranglers and their predecessors but the Compass, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, the Renegade and so many more. The one thing that ties all those Jeeps together is the Trail Rated Badge and we need to appreciate ALL of those Jeeps because they all are so capable and unique in their own ways. Sometimes people joke about the badge, and you need to realize it’s not just a badge they stick on the Jeep. It is earned. Every Jeep vehicle with that Trail Rated 4×4 badge has succeeded against a series of grueling tests in five categories: Traction,

Water Fording, Maneuverability, Articulation, and Ground Clearance. Jeep says Trail-Rated is a methodology a guarantee and a recognized standard for a proven off-road capability that Jeep 4×4 vehicles must meet. Trail Rated is an industry-leading methodology initially established by the Nevada Automotive Test Center (NATC) and Jeep Engineering to objectively measure off-road performance for all Jeep vehicles. First, the testing begins at Jeeps US Headquarters where the Jeeps endure the bitter angry cold weather in Northern Michigan. then it’s out to some of the most challenging terrains on earth. The Rubicon Trail is located high in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, the Rubicon Trail is 22 miles of incredible rocky, grueling beautiful landscape. It’s a natural off-road adventure park populated by massive rocks and unforgiving boulders. Weather and constant use mean the trail is always changing to provide new challenges for vehicles hoping to be Trail Rated®.

Jeep says, pushing our vehicles as far as they can go is part of the Jeep Brand DNA.” They strive for groundbreaking capability so we as Jeep owners can pursue our exhilarating adventures. Jeep says their vehicles will continue to be tested to battle everything you may encounter.

There are consistent and reliable measurements of off-road performance that include a combination of natural and controlled field tests on demanding terrain, as well as computer-simulated evaluation tests.

If a Jeep vehicle is affixed with the trail-rated badge you know it has passed the test in five performance categories. Traction that tells you, that vehicle is capable of conquering some of the toughest terrains in mud, sand, and rocks. Water Fording features additional electrical and body sealing along with a high air intake to help you navigate streams and flooded underpasses. Maneuverability means that Jeep is capable to navigate narrow gaps, dodge emergency situations and avoid cosmetic damage thanks to precision steering and optimized wheelbases, which allow for expert navigation. Articulation means those trail-rated suspensions enhance off-road performance maximizing flexibility, axle articulation, and wheel travel. And Ground Clearance is more than just the area under your Jeep when you drive over obstacles; it also includes the approach, break-over, and departure angles to ensure the vehicle can clear logs, rocks, and uneven ground.

So remember the next time you see that trail-rated 4×4 badge on your Jeep or other Jeeps know it’s not just a badge it’s a lot more! Jeep says they don’t make Jeep. We do. Revel in all things Jeep… that unstoppable spirit that makes our Jeep community and our Jeep experience what it means to live the Jeep life. You can head over to the Jeep website for all kinds of cool Jeep information on the Trail-Rated 4×4 badge and more on all the 4×4 Jeep things!
https://www.jeep.com/trail-rated.html

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

Interact With The Show! https://jeeptalkshow.com/contact

Jeep Talk Show on Facebook https://facebook.com/jeeptalkshow

Rat Bastards Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ratbastard

Rat Bastards Webpage https://ratbastard.lol

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Episode 623 – Jeep Regurgitates Another Name Badge

This Week In Jeep

Jeep Is Just Doing This To Piss Us Off

Remember how we’ve been talking about Jeep soon releasing an all-electric vehicle? Jeep has been saying they’re going to do it by 2025. Jeep’s first EV is supposed to be a crossover-like vehicle, part car, part SUV, but mostly car as most of them are. What we know is what we got from the front and back teasers a couple of months back, of this yellow Honda CRX, meets Renegade love child thing, painted in bumble bee yellow. 

It dares to have a seven-slot pseudo-grille and looks to have the off-road prowess of a Camry. Well, guess what they’re going to call it? …and I swear to god the naming executives at Stellantis are the same unimaginative douche-nozzle jerk-wads that were at FCA who didn’t have two brain cells to rub together to come up with the original name badges for the vehicles they’ve been releasing. “Oh, we need to cater to nostalgia and our heritage or history or something or really anything that will help us connect with people so they might buy these hideous vehicles we’ve aborted from the wombs of our factories.”     Pu-leeze. 

They’re going to call this little, tiny, itty bitty, smaller than a renegade, good for almost nothing all-electric wuss mobile…

…wait for it… Jeepster.

As if to insult and wipe away from the annals of history Jeep’s iconic beach cruiser, they regurgitate this nonsensical steaming pile of eco-virtue. Oh and as if that’s not enough,  it’s also going to be just one of a set of triplets. You see this exact, same identical vehicle, will be sold as a Fiat, as well as an Alfa Romeo. I’m sure the 7-slot-not-a-real-grill will be replaced with something else to separate the trademark out of it, but still. Insult to injury. Its bones are made from the CMP platform used in the Peugeot-Citroen family. So already this thing is pretty much all French and I think I can already smell its stink from here. The “Junior Jeepster” as some are already calling it

(…sorry, I just threw up in my mouth a little) is scheduled to hit assembly lines in November this year. The first iteration of this …CAR… will be powered by an internal combustion engine which is expected to be the 1.2-liter Peugeot unit. 

Oh doesn’t that sound just super fun! The electric version is anticipated for production in April 2023, followed by a mild hybrid trim in January 2024.

Remember my comment about its off-road abilities? Well this CMP platform wasn’t designed to accommodate any form of a 4WD or even all-wheel drivetrain.

So smaller than a Renegade. Made from a Citroen frame. Powered by a Peugeot. 

And boasting just as bad of a regurgitated name badge, oh and it’s only and 2WD. 

Yup, definitely not a Jeep.

Was It Mini Thieves Who Stole Mini Jeep?

A Lincoln Nebraska business was robbed after thieves rammed into its garage Tuesday morning. Around 8 am, officers were sent to CK Powersports near 25th and Fairfield Streets after an employee called and said the garage had been rammed into. The employee also told police that several items were missing. Officers arrived and found that the garage door had been damaged.  Video surveillance showed that it had been rammed around 5:15 a.m., police say. The business is missing a red Ti-King replica Jeep with a 125cc engine, six motorcycle helmets, a set of car ramps, and a silver 18-foot flatbed trailer. Police estimate that the business had around $1,000 worth of damage and valued the stolen items at around $6,000. The investigation is ongoing, and anyone with information is asked to call the police at 402-441-6000. Also on Tuesday, someone crashed into a car dealership’s garage and drove off with a $53,000 pickup truck. If you know anyone in the Lincoln Nebraska area who suddenly has a lot of body damage to their vehicle… you may want to contact the authorities. 

Juniper Dunes Rec. area BURNS

The Bureau of Land Management has taken over after Franklin County firefighters worked to contain a wilderness fire overnight Wednesday. A burning Jeep sparked what had grown to a 10-acre fire in the Juniper Dunes Wilderness Area on Wednesday evening. Franklin County Fire District 3 was called out to the Juniper Dunes off-road vehicle area around 3:44 p.m. after a Jeep caught fire. The Juniper Dunes Wilderness covers more than 7,000 acres north of Pasco in Franklin County in Washington State and is divided between an open recreational area, wilderness acreage, and an area of critical habit. The flames spread into the wilderness section where firefighters aren’t able to bring in heavy equipment such as bulldozers. Instead, they were trying to contain the blaze using crop-dusting planes. The planes were dumping water on the fire, while firefighters worked digging firebreaks by hand. Fire district Capt. Jason Langston told reporters on Thursday that the fire grew to about 40 acres but had been contained and the site had been turned over to the Bureau of Land Management.

Tech Talk with Jeep Talk

TOPIC/QUESTION: Catalytic Converters

I had someone recently ask me if they needed their catalytic converter and what the point of them was anyways. Catalytic converters are used to clean up the exhaust emissions on gas-burning engines. Earlier two-way catalytic converters are used to combine oxygen with carbon monoxide (CO) and unburned hydrocarbons (HC) to produce carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). That’s why you’d see a big stream of water come out of the tailpipe in some of those older cars when they take off from a stop light. In 1981, the two-way converters were replaced by three-way converters that also reduce nitrogen oxides (NOx). Even the newest catalytic converters will degrade over time. So it’s not uncommon for higher-mileage Jeeps to have catalytic converter issues. The insides of the catalytic converter can become damaged in a number of ways. They’re pretty robust, but not indestructible. For instance,  if the converter is severely dented from too many 3rd dates with large rocks, or banged around too much from impacts you could easily start to see performance loss. Let’s say your O2 sensors are going out or you (or the previous owner) didn’t take care of the regular maintenance very well. If there is an overly rich fuel condition, or if the engine is excessively worn or tired and allows oil to blow by the cylinder rings or valve seats and into the exhaust system, the catalytic converter can start to get plugged up from all this gunk and cause a bunch of problems. Even if you frequently use leaded aviation or race fuel. These burn differently in the engine than what it was engineered for, and although may provide added performance, they may cost you the longevity of some of your exhaust components. Sometimes the converter is just worn out, seen too many miles, and just needs to be replaced. If too much fuel, oil, or incorrect fuel is pushed through the converter for long enough, the honeycomb of materials inside of the steel shell can get so hot that it melts. Inadvertently banging on or denting the converter can cause the material to break apart. 

Once either of these scenarios happens, the bits can get turned sideways and block the exhaust path. A blocked exhaust causes the engine to work much harder to produce the same power, and oftentimes can’t even reach that number. The more you try to rev the engine, the more air it tries to move. The blocked exhaust causes the motor to struggle. Higher rpm will appear to make less power. Think of how well you’d perform at a marathon if you had to breathe through a sock the whole time. Sluggish engine performance. Reduced acceleration. Dark exhaust smoke. The smell of sulfur or rotten eggs from the exhaust. Excessive heat under the vehicle… These are all the tell-tale signs that you have a catalytic converter that needs to be replaced. Oh and the best part? The newer your Jeep is, the more of these that you likely have. Starting in as early as 2000 Jeep added PRE-CATS to most of their exhaust systems, little miniature catalytic converters right after the headers. These were designed to take the load off the main cat under the Jeep further back and reduce those tailpipe emissions even further.  

Ok, so what do you do if you’ve suddenly discovered that you have a blocked-up catalytic converter?  In a pinch, I have seen people remove the catalytic converter and knock the bits out of the steel shell with something as simple as a pry-bar. I have also seen one Jeeper cut a large hole in the converter, out on the trail… temporarily bypassing the rest of the exhaust. It was ugly as hell and sounded even worse, but he got home. You have to be careful if you decide to go this route, as you don’t want the hot exhaust directed at fuel lines, brake lines, wiring, the transmission, or transfer case for that matter. It’s only a temporary solution to get you home where you should replace the catalytic converter before driving the Jeep anymore. In almost every state, catalytic converters are a requirement. There may be some exceptions depending on how rural the county you live in is, but for most, it’s the law. Not to mention, catalytic converters are becoming more and more of a requirement on vehicles that go offroad, even if they’re not street legal. Besides the tree huggers and eco nuts feeling better about the tailpipe they’re sucking on, a catalytic converter also doubles as a spark arrester. All it takes is for one little piece of burnt carbon buildup to flow through a set of straight pipes and hit that dry, hot summer air, only to ignite the grass on the side of the trail starting a massive forest fire. So it might be a legal requirement for the trail too depending on what state or county you live in. Oh, and if you’re looking for a great source for parts to beat those dealership and parts store prices?…because catalytic converters aren’t cheap… Head over to Rockauto.com and I guarantee you will be able to save some cash on that replacement cat. Be sure to entertain the idea of going aftermarket. The cost may be a bit more, but chances are the cats you buy now will outlast the Jeep. Aftermarket performance level catalytic converters also flow better giving you a performance upgrade at the same time. Shop around, and go with something that will both fit your budget, and give you a little extra grunt at the same time.

Jeep Life – With Jeep Momma

Post Trail Ride Tips – Top 12

With the JTS Off-Road event we just had, a lot of you had a long drive home. One thing that is very important after you wheel is post-trail checking. Off-roading is tough on a vehicle. Off-roaders regularly push their vehicles to the limit, putting stress on even beefed-up aftermarket components. Even if you stick to casual fire roads, you should get in the habit of performing regular maintenance checks after every off-road trip.

  1. Wash Your Jeep, especially the undercarriage. Get under the hood and hose out the engine compartment. Cleaning your vehicle not only helps protect the exterior of your vehicle but also makes it easier to spot any problems
  2. Check your tire pressure and then do it again the next day, as tire pressure drops when the air inside it cools down. Don’t forget to check the pressure of your spare also; you might need it one day. Inspect your tires for any deep cuts or missing lugs. Check lug nuts and tighten if needed
  3. Examine the differential and transmission for any damage or leaks. Many off-roaders use heavy-duty covers on their differentials but dented covers can leak. If you’ve been in deep water check the fluid for a milky-white color which means water contamination and change as needed.
  4. Check your shocks for any damage such as deep dents or leaks, including bushings and mounts. One of my mounts broke on a super easy trail. They take a lot of stress.
  5. If you’ve been in deep sand, water, or mud you should inspect your brake drums for mud or sand. Inspect your brake lines, especially if you’ve lifted your vehicle and still have stock brake lines. If your brake lines are too short they will get stressed from over-extension. You don’t want to lose braking power unexpectedly.
  6. Larger tires are tough on axle components such as ball joints, knuckles, and shafts. Check everything over carefully for any signs of stress such as cracks or bends. Properly jack up your vehicle and give a good tug on each wheel to check for wobbles and looseness.
  7. Check suspension components such as track bar, control arms, springs, and bump stops for any signs of wear or damage. Look for any signs of components rubbing against each other which is usually shiny metal. Crawl underneath your Jeep and inspect your suspension and steering components for signs of damage or excessive wear and any loose nuts and bolts.  Wiggle things around.
  8. Grease any joints and bearings that need greasing, including u-joints and driveshafts (if greasable.) If you’re not sure what takes grease, look for a small grease zerk fitting, it indicates a part that needs greasing regularly.
  9. Look for any cracks in your vehicle’s frame, especially along weld lines and high-stress areas.
  10. Hard use and dust cause engine parts to wear out faster, so take a good look under the hood for any leaks and check all hoses, belts, and clamps. Look for anything that is loose and replace parts that are worn. Check all fluid levels. Inspect fluids for any water contamination if you’ve been in deep water. Check your radiator to make sure it isn’t damaged, leaking, or clogged with mud. Inspect your air filter especially if you have been in a lot of dust.
  11. If you used your winch Take the time to re-spool it so it is ready to go the next time you need it.
  12. Your Recovery Gear Clean your recovery gear. And organize your tools, and restock/replace gear in your trail bag so it is ready to go for your next outing.

Links Mentioned in this Episode

NEXEN Tires USA https://www.nexentireusa.com/

Trails 411- POWERING Your Adventure https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

The 4×4 Radio Network http://4x4radionetwork.com/

Interact With The Show! https://jeeptalkshow.com/contact

Jeep Talk Show on Facebook https://facebook.com/jeeptalkshow

Rat Bastards Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ratbastard

Rat Bastards Webpage https://ratbastard.lol

Looking for Amazon products we’ve talked about on the show? https://jeeptalkshow.com/amazon

You are invited to our Discord Server!  https://discord.gg/txeYMs45sm

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